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borninblue
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Aug 06, 2014

Towing Help...(I know another one)

First time for a Travel Trailer purchase, and I have been going crazy looking everything up here and Ford F150 sites. When I bought the truck new four years ago I never thought I would be towing anything, but then the family came along. So here is my story.

I cannot get a straight answer on what this thing can tow from the dealer. I have a 2011 F150 5.0 Platinum. I go to the RV lot and of course they say "of course no problem you can tow it with a 1/2 ton". I was told I have the max tow, and then was told I don't by the same dealer. The dealer said my 5.0 Screw 5.5 bed truck has everything except for the 3.73 gears (I have 3.55;4x4). The dealer said I have the trans cooler, trailer brake control in dash, but was not sure about the upgraded bumper? I believe I can only tow 7,500lbs?I am looking to tow the following and I am concerned it will be too much:

Keystone Cougar 28RBS
Dry Weight:6338lbs
Hitch Weight:955lbs (I believe this gets added in with payload?)
Will be carrying 2 adults and 2 kids

So here are my questions
1) Will I be pushing my truck too hard and eventually kill the transmission?
2) Is it worth to pay to have the gears changed out to 3.73 or other suggested gears? Any clue on what this would cost?
3) I am seriously debating trading in my truck for a 15' ecoboost max tow/payload package for towing concerns....am I crazy because my wife thinks so haha?
  • If this is your first travel trailer purchase, and considering your tow vehicle, I'd suggest a smaller trailer around 6000-6500lbs gross weight. There are plenty in that weight range that are roomy enough for a family of 4. We have a family of 6 with a 5000lbs trailer. You may find that a 30' trailer is too much trailer for your towing comfort.
  • westend wrote:
    ...and using the cargo capacity numbers on your driver's side door label, "Cargo and capacity should not exceed....". That label number will be your payload capacity and all passengers, cargo, tongue load, and weight of WDH should not exceed that number. The payload number is the definitive limit for 1/2 ton pickups and TT towing numbers. Forget about the rest.


    There it is, and this is where most folks get jammed up with RV towing. The tow rating is fine for boats and utility trailers, but is meaningless with RVs. Why? Because RVs add more weight on the tongue, which is weight that must be carried by the truck. AQ typical travel trailer (TT) puts 13% of it's total weight on the tongue.

    Keystone Cougar 28RBS
    Dry Weight:6338lbs
    Hitch Weight:955lbs

    In this case tongue weight is 15% of total. A typical family adds about 1000 lbs or ,more top an RV with clothes, food, pots/pans, etc, depending on how much storage you have. So if you add 1000 to 6338 = 7338 x 15% on the hitch = 1100 lbs that the TT will add to the truck. Add 4 passengers and whatever is in the truck bed and you will be waaay over the cargo limit of the truck.

    It's not just 150/1500's that have this issue...my TT is 8500 lbs loaded with 1200 on the hitch. With a family of four I run right at the 8600 lb GVWR, even though the "tow rating" is 12,000 lbs.

    FWIW, changing gears and adding power doesn't do anything to change carrying capacity of the truck. The tires need a higher load rating, and in turn the rims need a higher load rating, as do the springs, brakes, axles, etc. Even if you swapped out rims/tires, added air bags to level the rear, added a tuner for the 5.0 to increase HP, the trans or diff is likely to give up. For all the $$ you spend in upgrades you can get a nice 2500 truck and be done with it. OR, get a smaller TT and put that cash back in your pocket.
  • First, you need to know what your truck has when built. You can find this out by the numbers on the VIN and the other placards on the vehicle. There are online resources for this or you can contact the dealer.

    After you know what packages you have with the truck, you can find out what is towable with the Ford Towing Guide and using the cargo capacity numbers on your driver's side door label, "Cargo and capacity should not exceed....". That label number will be your payload capacity and all passengers, cargo, tongue load, and weight of WDH should not exceed that number. The payload number is the definitive limit for 1/2 ton pickups and TT towing numbers. Forget about the rest.
  • GoPackGo wrote:
    The dry weight of the camper does not matter. Your truck needs to be rated to tow the GVWR of that camper, which will probably be over 8,000 pounds.

    The hitch weight will be higher due to that also.

    I don't understand what the bumper has to do with it.

    Tim


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    WHAT!!!! I hope you don't tow it with the bumper. You need a frame mounted hitch for this trailer and a distribution hitch. Even then, I have to agree, if your truck is rated at 7500 lbs, you will be overweight.
  • The dry weight of the camper does not matter. Your truck needs to be rated to tow the GVWR of that camper, which will probably be over 8,000 pounds.

    The hitch weight will be higher due to that also.

    I don't understand what the bumper has to do with it.

    Tim
  • By time you load he trailer, you will be at or over max. And with that tongue weight, close to 1100lbs or more when loaded, you may be over the hitch rating and/or payload when loaded.