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So, let's say we make people buying a camper at a dealership watch this - what's their take away? How do you make lessons from this video that can be actionable for the people watching it?
1.That they NEED to know what the correct tow vehicle, tow set up is for what RV they are buying. Ot that could be the consequences.
And not just taking a salesman saying "Yup your truck and/or SUV can tow that" as pure fact. Most newbies don't have a clue if their vehicle can tow what they want to buy. And RV salesman prey on that fact to make a sale.
2. And it also shows just what can happen when driving too fast towing. My bet is on that a newbie has NO idea that you can flip ass over apple cart like in those videos when towing a trailer.
It would at least give them pause to think about just what they are buying AND to ask questions what can happen to their precious family if they have not thoroughly researched and learned everything related to towing BEFORE they buy a TT.
I still think newbies would benefit tremendously from viewing those videos.
I have met over 20 RV'ers in my travels that said they have never towed in their life and just walked into a dealership and bought one. When you full-time like I do you see it all.:R
And BTW.....everyone one of them I had the pleasure of talking to had dangerously too small of a tow vehicle that had no business being on the road towing. Henceforth these newbies need some help before they buy their first TT.ependydad wrote:
What were the words we were supposed to get from these videos?
No words...just proof that poop happens
Why this is serious stuff, or at least 'some' can see that...betcha too many will only see humor and entertainment in these types of threads
That Mr Murphy does cross "someone's path"...wonder if anyone one of those poor folks ever said: "it only happens to the other guy"...
"...Supposed to get from these videos?..." guess this is going to continue to be over folks head as to how serious towing is...can be...oh yeah...it only happens to the other guy...right?
The only that I see an obvious take away is the boat trailer: make sure you have proper rated safety chains AND use them.
Yup...but...only *ONE* thing out of many, many, many things to consider and take action
Otherwise, there wasn't a common topic in the rest of than - trailers do unexpected things. They showed all sizes of tow vehicles minus getting into the MDT/HDT side of things.
Hint...it HAPPENED !!!...and again, happened to that other guy that no one ever thinks would be themselves someday out there when Mr Murphy crosses their path
That all things can meet Mr Murphy...that on that day...there will be no time to go back to the store for proper stuff...and/or...readjust everything properly....
Therefore...learn the HOW2's and follow those instructions for 'your' TV...not what others have done...it may work on theirs...but may not on yours...
Then the OEM ratings systems...that most all of those ratings are mandated by the government for the protection of their customers...
On that, decide if you believe in the ratings system or not.
If not, then do whatever these people who advise to ignore ratings
If yes, then learn the HOW2's and what 'your' ratings are. Go out and actually weigh your setup axle by axle to apply that info 'your' TV's ratings
So, let's say we make people buying a camper at a dealership watch this - what's their take away? How do you make lessons from this video that can be actionable for the people watching it?
It might have 'some' realize how serious towing really is...that it can happen to them...not just the other guy...to then have them try to learn the HOW2's.
Either by searching and reading...or asking (that is a load of poop some times)
Not a horse person....many buddies are and always wondered about that old adage: "you can lead a horse to water...but...you can't make it drink"...
- What were the words we were supposed to get from these videos?
The only that I see an obvious take away is the boat trailer: make sure you have proper rated safety chains AND use them.
Otherwise, there wasn't a common topic in the rest of than - trailers do unexpected things. They showed all sizes of tow vehicles minus getting into the MDT/HDT side of things.
So, let's say we make people buying a camper at a dealership watch this - what's their take away? How do you make lessons from this video that can be actionable for the people watching it? - Some come here to these types of forums just looking for what they want to hear...they will get tons of them...along with the: "sure you can" & "have been doing it for decades with no issues"
Or if they don't get what they wish to hear...call out those advisors "Weight Police"....there is no 'policing' on these freebie forums and they use the derogatory "Weight Police" to dis those advisors...
These are Mr Murphy moments that they think...."only happens to the other guy"
Ignorance is bliss until Mr Murphy crosses their path...{tpc} wrote:
Hate watching those videos. I understand its to show how serious this kind of stuff is, but I feel bad that these folks never knew, or just chose to ignore things. Or got told bad information.
I've rolled up on some aftermath before, thankfully nothing too serious, but I always wonder "why" to a multitude of things. Seems like there needs to be a safety class and some sort of certification. - Nah just hook it and go be all right don't need no stinking scales.
Thats the cost of a 12 pack and the time to drink it ha ha.
Oh hell its a white knuckle ride. Nearly killed us kids a screamin
Guess I need to get me a bigger truck.
That salesman lied to me said my truck pull it no problem,
What honey.. no we don't need to go to no stinking scales.
What yea I know your brother tows twice the trailer with half the truck for years but he is weird.
What I don't care what he said bout da hitch. I know what ima doing. This new truck pull anything,
Hope you enjoyed todays presentation of thats so true it hurts. carringb wrote:
Trackrig wrote:
It's interesting that on the third accident that the guy was towing an empty car trailer when it happened.
Bill
Looked like maybe that flatbed had been modified with a tail extension? The tail end wasn't the same material as the rest, but it didn't look like a dovetail. Might have had negative tongue weight from the mods?
I believe that is a full width ramp as is used on a lot of lawn and garden trailers. It's usually mesh and is usually vertical when towing. Not sure though as the trailer didn't stay still long enough to get a good look.RCMAN46 wrote:
Interesting not a single 5th wheel was shown.
The boat incident shows why good safety chains are required in most if not all states.
Yup. Fifth wheels are far more immune to this issue since they pivot over the axle centerline.
I'm not a fan of TT's for this reason. If I had to use one it would have a Hensley hitch...- Interesting not a single 5th wheel was shown.
The boat incident shows why good safety chains are required in most if not all states. - The boat went sliding away with the tail on the ground. So probably no hitch weight, or very little.
The others also probably had to little hitch weight.
Also, one of the setups was a dually. So for those saying a dually is best, better, bestest for handling sway like this. That part of video blows that theory apart! If you have a trailer going side to side, your screwed. If you get back or too somewhere, with sway issues, time to figure out what is causing said sway, fix it, then add the sway bars.
my 02 on this video.
Marty - X10!
THAT video should be in each and every RV dealership
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It should be mandatory for a prospective buyer to watch before purchasing a TT.
Especially when a salesman states "sure, your truck can tow that".
