Alternative stove

ajriding wrote:
I like the idea of using a 2-burner RV stove and building it in a small tray of sorts on a hose or quick disconnect so i can cook inside or out on this. I have seen some on ebay for $65, so not cheap, but cheap enough

Just keep in mind that if the unit you are building has sleeping quarters and including a built in stove with fixed lines, etc, you will need to have it certified if you plan to use it in a c/g. Boondocking you *might* get away with it, depending on where you stay.

Nobody at a campground ever asked me if my stove or heat system was “certified”.

Except for the fact that you are planning on using propane for heat, I was going to suggest an alcohol cooktop. They now come as dual fuel units, 120v and alcohol. Popular in boats where nobody wants leaking propane seeping to a bilge where there are ignition sources.

Dave

magicbus wrote:
Nobody at a campground ever asked me if my stove or heat system was “certified”.

Except for the fact that you are planning on using propane for heat, I was going to suggest an alcohol cooktop. They now come as dual fuel units, 120v and alcohol. Popular in boats where nobody wants leaking propane seeping to a bilge where there are ignition sources.

Dave

So fun, so funny. It keeps me up at night of worry to know how much of my campers I have done work on and modified and rebuilt and not called that certified guy to come give me a certificate of certification os such workmanship.
I do imagine it would be the Wissard of OZ, original movie version, wizzard, I typed "wissard", but I think fitting for such an estuanuance occasion.
He had such a way woth wordz.

As such, i do herby confess I have not looked too thoroughly into the alcohol stove, though I did see some in passing briefly when browsing the online market advertisements for said stoves and camp connoisseurs cookware.

Yes, given I am procured to harness the propane tank for benefactor of the propane heater I do own that I should align myself closely with the propane paraphernalia of other mentioned fore after said cooktops.

And, as such, on this day indeed, I do hereby solemnly, and with great humiliation, bestow upon myself the grand title of and to myself an opinion of merit given to me in such form as a certificate of honer of e pluribus onem and do certify this today. thank you

magicbus wrote:
Nobody at a campground ever asked me if my stove or heat system was “certified”.

Except for the fact that you are planning on using propane for heat, I was going to suggest an alcohol cooktop. They now come as dual fuel units, 120v and alcohol. Popular in boats where nobody wants leaking propane seeping to a bilge where there are ignition sources.

Dave

Jax believes that the entire world revolves around the "greater Toronto" Canada area which has totally over the top stupid laws and rules which require one to pay exorbitant propane gas plumbers to even light a pilot light.

News flash Jax, absolutely no one, no Gov, no Gov agency, no laws care one bit about what Greater Toronto deems as law outside Greater Toronto area.

If you don't like the laws you are under, move or petition your Greater Toronto area to remove such inane, over the top archaic laws. They are not there to protect you or anyone else, they are there to remove money out of your pocket. It is as bad as some cities which prevent you from pumping gasoline into your own car (yes, I live near a big city which at one time back in the 1980s repealed such stupid law)..

Propane or any other gas can be handled without blowing yourself up and with minimal plumbing skills, isn't rocket science and doesn't require one to stay in a "Holiday Inn Express".

Last time I looked, it is still illegal to pump your own gasoline in Oregon and Rhode Island. Just to set stupid laws in context.
I have done many installs/repairs on LP furnaces and cook tops. I hope my wife will come and visit me in prison since I put this on the net.

BarabooBob wrote:
Last time I looked, it is still illegal to pump your own gasoline in Oregon and Rhode Island.

Actually I think you will find it it Oregon and New Jersey where you can’t pump your own gas. Rhode Island trusts you not to set yourself on fire.

Dave

Gdetrailer wrote:

magicbus wrote:
Nobody at a campground ever asked me if my stove or heat system was “certified”.

Dave

Jax believes that the entire world revolves around the "greater Toronto" Canada area which has totally over the top stupid laws and rules which require one to pay exorbitant propane gas plumbers to even light a pilot light.

News flash Jax, absolutely no one, no Gov, no Gov agency, no laws care one bit about what Greater Toronto deems as law outside Greater Toronto area.

If you don't like the laws you are under, move or petition your Greater Toronto area to remove such inane, over the top archaic laws. They are not there to protect you or anyone else, they are there to remove money out of your pocket. It is as bad as some cities which prevent you from pumping gasoline into your own car (yes, I live near a big city which at one time back in the 1980s repealed such stupid law)..

Propane or any other gas can be handled without blowing yourself up and with minimal plumbing skills, isn't rocket science and doesn't require one to stay in a "Holiday Inn Express".

Actually, the laws I’m talking about are American, although there are similar laws up here too.

When you call your insurance company to arrange coverage on your newly purchased Ford or GM truck. Ditto if you buy a new Winnebago, towable or drivable. Why? Because they know that those manufacturers build units that are certified to be in compliance with the appropriate safety requirements. There’s no need to ask. On the trucks there’s a compliance label in the drivers door jamb, on the RV’s, there’s a (usually) RVIA seal next to the entry door certifying that the unit was built to the appropriate standards.

The same thing applies to c/g’s as I mentioned above with the insurance company. If you register with a “2018 Winnebago” they won’t bat an eye. Try registering to camp there with a “2018 DIY MagicBus” and see if they have questions.

Of course Gdetrailer of all people knows this, since this is about the 5th time it’s been pointed out to him, including citations of numerous laws and posted US c/g rules.

I guess unwarranted ad hominem attacks are a hobby of his......

The past, clicky, clicky.

... If you register with a “2018 Winnebago” they won’t bat an eye. Try registering to camp there with a “2018 DIY MagicBus” and see if they have questions.

I don't know where you visit, but I have 20 years and well over 100k miles traveling all over North America and not once did I register in a CG as "2018 Winnebago". 100% of the time is was 32' no slide with 30 amp, or 36' with slide and 50 amp, or now, 24 foot no slide with 30 amp. Not one single CG in the US or CA ever asked the make of my RV or if it had an RVIA sticker.

Dave

JaxDad, you are referring to laws governing retail sales of RVs on one hand, then campgrounds checking campers over for compliance on the other. Which is it?

Also, in NJ, you CAN pump your own diesel legally since it is not gasoline, but good luck getting a guy who breathes gas fumes all day to go along.
I think you can even keep your diesel motor running legally since the law says to turn gas motors off while pumping, not diesels, but that is another topic

Jax, you're still out to lunch on this one buddy.
Noone cares about the propane stove certification installer when you check into the KOA, noone, except maybe you.