And Texas Caves In

Lantley wrote:

bid_time wrote:
x20 - We've already screwed our kids and grandkids. Our generation should be real ashamed of the mess we have left them with. They'd be better off if the coronavirus took our whole generation out.

So tell me how you know we are totally screwed. Honestly much in the way we have never quarantined the entire country. We have never deliberately created a financial crisis.
How long will it take to recover financially? What will the financial recovery entail. From a financial perspective we are also in uncharted territory.
Similar to the health aspects. We truly don't fully know how this plays out. I don't mean to imply there will no hardships. But we don't need to be ashamed that there was a pandemic.
Pandemic was not a word the we created. Pandemic have happened before and I imagine they will happen again.
One day when the dust settles the grand kids maybe grateful that we survived as well as we did!

Oh Yes Indeed! Our grandkids are going to be oh so proud of us leaving them $24 TRILLION dollars in debt; they'll be dancing in the streets. And you being one that advocates for paying cash or doing without. My how the worm doth turn. (And we're about to slather that $24T with a bunch of chocolate frosting with this recession/depression and forthcoming bailouts)

About the models

Garbage in, garbage out!

One thing I can not understand is with the government willing to pass out trillions of dollars, why does the loss of a job require a loss of income?
For every week a area must be shut down pay everybody 1/52 of their last year's reported income. Everybody's bills could stay caught up, so when businesses opened there would be a pent up demand for the goods we can not buy now. And the businesses would have their most valuable asset customers with money in their pocket.
Now, would this save say a airline? If managers had been running the airline without expecting Gov to step in to bail them out, (and been reporting their income) yes. If managed bad, then when demand for air travel comes back others could buy the equipment and start flying.

The coronavirus must have passed its peak because round 2 has started.

NY deferring workforce pay raises: 'We, frankly, don't have the money'

"We, frankly, don't have the money," Robert Mujica, Cuomo's budget director, said at the governor's daily briefing, about 12 hours after some of the state's major unions began spreading the word about the pay freeze. He has estimated state revenue has taken at least a $10 billion dive since the virus hit New York. The freeze will last at least 90 days and would save New York $50 million.

https://www.newsday.com/news/health/coronavirus/state-unions-pay-raise-1.43756563

16 million unemployed on record

And that’s without the millions more like the lady in the article who has tried 1,200 times and failed to get through the unemployment filing website.


Models are not accurate

Decisions have been made using faulty assumptions and bad science. Instead of a one hour news program with doctors doing all the talking, let’s hear from some economists.

The local sheriff here in the last week put up one of those mobile electronic signs on the highway into our community. “Lock your doors”. Doesn’t take a crystal ball to see where this road goes.

We may never know exactly how Covid-19 came to be the threat it is today, but I'm convinced the crisis is being milked for everything it's worth by certain people.
In this world there are some extremely wealthy, equally ruthless elites who run things behind the curtain. For anyone who likes history and wants to know how we got to the mess we're in worldwide, I recommend the book, "The Killing of Uncle Sam," by Howard-Browne & Williams. You won't be bored. It shocked me to find out how bloodthirsty Winston Churchill was; he actually reveled in WWII.

Two words

George
Soros

Mike

bid_time wrote:
They'd be better off if the coronavirus took our whole generation out.

Speak for yourself.

Bluhorn wrote:
Some of you people just dont get it. If people would practice the social distancing more and follow the recommendations this thing would slow down alot. But nooooo my freedoms are being run over. I cant stay in. Im bored. Im sure the Drs and Nurses are bored too.They are scared to death they are going to introduce it into there own family.This thing is real and its world wide.Quit whining. Home many of you experts are Drs? Some of you disgust me.

You must have replied to the wrong forum. I don’t recall any posts complaining about freedom, staying in or boredom (at least not recently). It’s pretty tough to take your rant seriously when it’s a straw man.

Also the majority of the name calling, disgust and labeling seems to be coming from one “side” of the issue. My personal opinion is some operate more at an emotional level and others more at a logical level. Neither position is completely wrong but both lead to very different ways to view (and communicate about) the a common problem.

Texas numbers as of 9 April 2020

10,230 infected
1,101 recovered
199 deaths