Anyone done the Class A Non-Commercial in Cali?

Yes, non-commercial class A exists in California. Required if you are pulling a recreational vehicle that meets one of the two following limits:
1 - Bumper pull with GVWR over 10,000 lbs
or
2 - 5th wheel with GVWR over 15,000 lbs

There is another odd one not talked about much, which I have. Non Commercial Class A with Restriction 41. This is required for a 5th wheel where the GVWR is between 10,000 and 15,000 lbs. For this, take the same written test as the non-commercial Class A - but skip all the rest of the stuff. The stuff the OP is concerned about.

Sorry, but I still don't see any reference specifically to there being a CA Class A NCDL. 12804.12 indicates a "restricted" Class A....is that the same thing as a NCDL?

Ron

lanerd wrote:
12804.9 deals with a Class B NCDL. Again, I don't think there is such an animal as a Class A NCDL...only a Class A CDL.

Could be wrong however......

Ron

Check 12804.12 restricted class A license. 12804.9 lists vehicles legally operated with a class C and if not listed then must be class B com/noncom or if 2 or more vehicles (depending on trailer gvwr) then class A com/noncom. Process of elimination. Commercial drivers hand book has great chart inside cover page that is very easy to understand.

There was several threads on our toy hauler forum a couple of years back on the class A CA thing. Maybe the mod can move you over there if you don't get many helpfull answers here.

12804.9 deals with a Class B NCDL. Again, I don't think there is such an animal as a Class A NCDL...only a Class A CDL.

Could be wrong however......

Ron

lanerd wrote:
I don't think there is a Class A NCDL... I have a Class B NCDL and that sounds like what you are talking about. To answer your question....The "back in" test was indeed made with orange cones and I had to start out perpendicular to the spot and had one chance to get out and look. Also, there was a line marked on the ground at the end of the cones and I had to stop within 3' of it and could not go over.

Hope this helps

Ron

Check out 12804.9 CA vehicle code and it does exist and is fully enforceable. Too bad 2 out of 3 DMV offices probably don't understand it. BTW it is required for gvwr over 15k of trailer and not the unladen weight!! While you are at it check out 25100 or 25300 requires 3 roadside triangles be carried in any single vehicle or combo when any vehicle/trailer is over 80" in width.

I don't think there is a Class A NCDL... I have a Class B NCDL and that sounds like what you are talking about. To answer your question....The "back in" test was indeed made with orange cones and I had to start out perpendicular to the spot and had one chance to get out and look. Also, there was a line marked on the ground at the end of the cones and I had to stop within 3' of it and could not go over.

Hope this helps

Ron