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dlleno's avatar
dlleno
Explorer
Jul 21, 2020

Azdel anyone?

Hi,

this material is getting more press (and sales time). The primary value proposition is that it won't take on water, so mfgs are touting that they are now immune to delamination due to water damage. But this also means that the sidewall lamination process is now different so there is a new/introduced risk of delamination when dry. or is there? just wondering if Azdel really moves the needle.
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  • theoldwizard1's avatar
    theoldwizard1
    Explorer II
    Jul 21, 2020
    Delamination between Azdel and outer skin (typically Filon) CAN still occur if the adhesive fails. The big win for Azdel is that it will not rot or mold because it has no organic compounds (wood fiber).

    Water is still the biggest cause of delamination. If no water gets into the wall (and it should not with a properly installed roof) then you should never experience delamination
  • goducks10's avatar
    goducks10
    Explorer
    Jul 21, 2020
    It's floor plan, frame, suspension and other amenities that move my needle.
    Thats not taking anything away from Azdel, it's just that not that many MFG's use it and you're limited to what they offer in an RV.
    IMO it is superior to luan by a mile.
  • theoldwizard1's avatar
    theoldwizard1
    Explorer II
    Jul 21, 2020
    goducks10 wrote:
    It's floor plan, frame, suspension and other amenities that move my needle.
    Thats not taking anything away from Azdel, it's just that not that many MFG's use it and you're limited to what they offer in an RV.

    IMO it is superior to luan by a mile.

    I have to agree with all of what you said !

    Coachmen, who makes a big deal of Azdel, does NOT use it on all of their products and some of their products only use it on the sidewalls, NOT the front and rear walls.
  • noteven's avatar
    noteven
    Explorer III
    Jul 22, 2020
    My Cirrus camper is welded aluminum, Azdel inside and out, extruded foam insulation, filon, aluminum roof, basement designed so water leaks run out the bottom, woo hoo...

    The only wood is the cabinets and furnishings inside.

    My next camper, should I accept the mission, will be composite insulated fibreglass panels.
  • bikendan's avatar
    bikendan
    Explorer
    Jul 22, 2020
    noteven wrote:
    My Cirrus camper is welded aluminum, Azdel inside and out, extruded foam insulation, filon, aluminum roof, basement designed so water leaks run out the bottom, woo hoo...

    The only wood is the cabinets and furnishings inside.

    My next camper, should I accept the mission, will be composite insulated fibreglass panels.


    And Cirrus was in business how long, a couple of years? Not saying that they didn't make a good product, just that they couldn't compete because their products cost more to make.

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