I got a bit of a giggle when I read the Topic. Until there are "strict standards", (as generally in the auto industry), set by and followed by the RV industry "brand loyalty" is a******shoot! I have owned a Jayco, Terry, Thor, and now a Laredo. Realizing that I have never bought new, all have had engineering, and or quality issues of one sort or another. I usually look for a floor plan I like and then start looking for issues with the unit. If it is something I can remedy then it stays on the list. If not I move on. When I go to a dealer and look at new units and find quality issues and the dealer says "that's the way they come, the manufacture sends them to us and we fix them when you buy them". That tells me we have a long wait!