CKNSLS wrote:
There are those on this forum who will not run the Carlisle tires based on their experience 20 years ago.....so it goes on this forum.
Where are Carlisle tires made?
Depending upon which Carlisle tire you select, the tire could have been made in either a U.S. factory or elsewhere. With 77 facilities owned and operated by Carlisle Companies, all but 17 are located in the United States. As you see from these numbers, we are an American company committed to American manufacturing and standards.
Carlisle tires manufactured in Asia are developed in factories owned and operated by Carlisle, under the supervision of American engineers and tested according to U.S. standards, unlike some other tire companies who simply contract out to the lowest bidding foreign factory.
All Toyota Tundra Bassmaster Weekend Series trailered equipment ride on Carlisle Radial Trail RH tires and Black Rock wheels, and are towed from event to event an average of 35,000 miles per year without a tire failure.”
RVUSA wrote:westend wrote:
I just bought 4 Carlisle Radial Trail RH Load range D in ST205-75R 15, last week. The newer Trail RH have an additional nylon cap over the plys, just like a Maxxis. Load rating for the range D tires is 2150 lbs. They are made in Carlisle's plant in China.
I probably would have gone with an LT tire but my axles and older rims, with deep offset, dictated size and there were no LT tires in this size. Since the tires support 5000 lbs, I'm fairly confident they will work out well.
here's my post on my RH's. I seem to be the one with the most mileage with them that posts about it. It doesnt mean there arent others (I suspect the bass pro guys would have way more miles than me).So my Carlisle Radial RH's that I bought a year and a half ago have been to a few places.
from Orlando FL to LA Calif, 2502 miles and sat then for 4 months
from LA Calif to Orlando FL, 2502 miles and sat for 1 month
from Orlando FL to Lewistown PA, 1021 miles and sat for 4 months
from Lewistown PA. to Columbus OH (and back), 706 miles and then sat for 4 more months
from Lewistown PA. to Orlando FL, 1021 miles and sat for 6 months
from Orlando FL to Chicago IL, 1062 miles and sitting.
around 8800 miles in total.
I added the sit time between runs as it's more of a factor than some would think. The tires have to heat up and be driving to get the UV inhibitors (among other stuff) to migrate to the sidewall surface of the tire. When they sit around the stuff dissipates and the tires begin to rot from the sunlight.
I always cover them if I am going to be somewhere longer than a couple days. To date they have no indications of cracking on the sidewall or tread separation or blemishes or even loss of air. All 4 tires have had 80 psi in them each time I have checked them (a year and a half!), kind of dumbfounding a bit to me as I have never seen tires do that before.
I do one other thing as I believe it helps. when I start driving in the morning I go at least 5 miles under 50 and then hit 55 for a few more, then 60 for a few more and then 63 - 64 for the rest of the day. (I do hit 70 on occasion when passing a semi or something) I think taking a cold ST from sitting to full operating temp in just a mile or so adds to the failures. Kind of a thermal shock failure.
westend wrote:
I just bought 4 Carlisle Radial Trail RH Load range D in ST205-75R 15, last week. The newer Trail RH have an additional nylon cap over the plys, just like a Maxxis. Load rating for the range D tires is 2150 lbs. They are made in Carlisle's plant in China.
I probably would have gone with an LT tire but my axles and older rims, with deep offset, dictated size and there were no LT tires in this size. Since the tires support 5000 lbs, I'm fairly confident they will work out well.
So my Carlisle Radial RH's that I bought a year and a half ago have been to a few places.
from Orlando FL to LA Calif, 2502 miles and sat then for 4 months
from LA Calif to Orlando FL, 2502 miles and sat for 1 month
from Orlando FL to Lewistown PA, 1021 miles and sat for 4 months
from Lewistown PA. to Columbus OH (and back), 706 miles and then sat for 4 more months
from Lewistown PA. to Orlando FL, 1021 miles and sat for 6 months
from Orlando FL to Chicago IL, 1062 miles and sitting.
around 8800 miles in total.
I added the sit time between runs as it's more of a factor than some would think. The tires have to heat up and be driving to get the UV inhibitors (among other stuff) to migrate to the sidewall surface of the tire. When they sit around the stuff dissipates and the tires begin to rot from the sunlight.
I always cover them if I am going to be somewhere longer than a couple days. To date they have no indications of cracking on the sidewall or tread separation or blemishes or even loss of air. All 4 tires have had 80 psi in them each time I have checked them (a year and a half!), kind of dumbfounding a bit to me as I have never seen tires do that before.
I do one other thing as I believe it helps. when I start driving in the morning I go at least 5 miles under 50 and then hit 55 for a few more, then 60 for a few more and then 63 - 64 for the rest of the day. (I do hit 70 on occasion when passing a semi or something) I think taking a cold ST from sitting to full operating temp in just a mile or so adds to the failures. Kind of a thermal shock failure.
Me Again wrote:JJBIRISH wrote:
The best way to reduce risk is to buy the best brand you can afford in a size the equals your axle rating plus 20% for added reserve capacity…
Funny, ST tires carry about a 15 percent higher load rating than a similar size LT tire, which can be used right to their max rating. Yet Carlisle recommends that 20% also!
"The combined capacity of all of the tires should exceed the loaded trailer weight by 20 percent"
Form this statement it seems they want pin or hitch weight included in the tire capacity.
Carlisle also makes this statement.
"Best practice. Do not exceed 60 mph while towing a trailer."
Standard for all brands of ST tires
Seems they have limited faith in their product.
Funny how so many think that ST tires are something special!
ST Tires have stronger sidewalls
If they were as good as the marketing hype about them, then we would not be reading all the failure threads.
Check the dates on the threads or how old the tires were. Hard to find bad reports on the new style of tires in the last few years. Lots of positive reports for a change.
There is that age old adage that you get what you pay for! ST tires that are OEM on new trailers cost the manufacturer next to nothing, as they buy tires and wheels pre-mounted by the truck or train car load from Tireco and Tredit.
I agree on this one that it is all about the dollar.
Chris
westend wrote:ScottG wrote:What load range Carlisle tire did you have mounted?
I replaced all five of my junk Carlisle's with Maxxiss and never had a failure again.
JJBIRISH wrote:
The best way to reduce risk is to buy the best brand you can afford in a size the equals your axle rating plus 20% for added reserve capacity…
