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beelbill
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Apr 19, 2015

Compare and Contrast TT's and 5er's

I have towed Travel Trailers for over 40 years and just switched to a 5th wheel for the first time. Everyone Camping World kept telling me that I will love the 5th wheel because it is so much easier to handle than a Travel Trailer. So far, it has been a rocky start. In the beginning, I had to learn how to do things with the Travel Trailer but over the years they have become second nature and I did them without even thinking about why. Now with the 5th Wheel, things are similar but not the same and I have to stop and think about why I did the things I did and how they will be different now.

So, I thought it would be good to start a thread to compare and contrast Travel Trailers to 5th Wheels. For those people who recently switch from a 5th wheel to a travel trailer or switched from a travel trailer to a 5th wheel, what problems did you have adjusting? How are things different or the same?

For example, when you go to unhitch a trailer, you often have to rock the hitch a little to get the latch on the trailer to lift up before you can crank the trailer up away from the ball. I did that without thinking. But when I went to unhitch the 5er, I pulled on the handle to release the trailer and it wouldn't release. The 5er is much heavier than the TT and you don't just rock it a little. You have to set the 5er in position and then shift the tow vehicle a little to release the latch.

Fifth Wheels tow better than Travel Trailers, but they don't back worth crap. I had to learn how to back a trailer but it was so long ago, I forgot how hard it was at first. I did it without thinking. But, 5ers back differently because they have a different pivot point. As soon as you start to jack the rig, to the left, the front of the 5er swings out to the right and totally blocks your view. You can not see what you are doing on the passenger side of the rig. Things are much closer than they appeared in your mirror when you lost sight of them.

Those are the two biggest differences I have found so far. Please share your experiences in switching rigs. What is better? What is worse? What mistakes did you make and how did you adjust to prevent them from happening again?
  • Yes backing and hitching are different. The issue is not that a 5'er is much harder. The issue is more about attitude adjustment and forgetting how you use to do things with a TT.
    Trying to start with a fresh slate and forgetting what you are use to is the hard part.
    There is a learning curve but most who make the transition are very satisfied in the end.
  • The only issue I have is backing up, coming from a single axle TT to the twin axle FW last summer. Takes a couple extra tries. Russ's tip on starting to straighten out as soon as it starts to turn is a good one, everything seems delayed. Losing a lot of the truck bed is the only real downside I've encountered. The actual towing is much nicer.
  • I wanted to go the fifth wheel route last year when we bought a new toy hauler but would have had to buy a 42' trailer for all our toys so I bought my 2nd TT, TH. The inside is the same layout as a fifth wheel because of the "Z frame" technology. I also didn't want to give up my 8' truck bed with a fifth wheel because I have a sport quad to load in there. I don't have any issues pulling this but I'm sure the fifth wheel is a little more stable in windy travels.
  • poncho62 wrote:
    Biggest difference I found is that the 5th wheel follows differently when towing. Turning is more hazardous, it cuts sooner. Backing is a bit different, but not much.


    You are so correct Poncho.
    A fifthwheel trailer wheels track quite a bit tighter than the truck's rear wheels unlike a TT.
    Square wide to the left turns are important.
    I was walking with my dog early one morning a couple weeks ago in a trailer park and a camper was leaving early and forgot about his trailer tracking tighter than his truck and just about took out another trailers rear end going around a corner with a football field worth of concrete and road that he did not use to make the turn properly.
    I woke most of the entire park with my hollering to stop. He stopped with about 1 inch to spare before the last 5-7 feet of the side of his trailer would have been grinding against the rear end of the other trailer.
  • Biggest difference I found is that the 5th wheel follows differently when towing. Turning is more hazardous, it cuts sooner. Backing is a bit different, but not much.
  • "Everyone at Campingworld kept telling me" I imagine that included sales people?
    You know what they say about sales people and lip movement. :B

    All kidding aside.
    Yes it's different. No it's not hard to adjust to. You will quickly learn to take the pressure off the hitch pin to allow easy opening of the hitch jaws as suggest by backing into the hitch slightly after dropping the front legs and picking up some weight.
    As for backing up.
    Go slow and easy making small steering inputs and beginning to correct before you would historically with a TT.
    Turn the steering wheel in the opposite direction that you want the trailer to go.
    Some folks like to place a hand at the bottom of the steering wheel and move it in the direction they want the trailer to turn towards.
    Take it slow and easy and try not to do a blind side back in unless you have a trusted spotter.
    Some couples use walkie talkie to communicate while backing in.
  • I also switched from a TT to a 5'er this yr. I've towed bumper pull trailers, tt-equipment ect, for many yrs. So I really dont think about hitching, un hitching or backing up a tt.

    I definitely need to pay attention to the process of hitching, un hitching the 5'er. It's a simple process, but a simple error can be costly. I tripple check everything.

    Towing the 5'er is so much nicer than my 38' tt. Hardly know its there. Backing is definitely different between the two. Once the 5'er starts to turn, I start the chase. Definitely a learning curve.
  • rhagfo's avatar
    rhagfo
    Explorer III
    How to respond???:h

    I have towed a TT years ago, then a 20' sail boat with a early 60's Ford Econoline, and a short TT horse trailer with a long wheelbase TV. The 20" Travel Trailer was OK backing, the Sail boat, also no issues. The %$*^*&)&($^* horse trailer was a bear.

    We have had a 5er for five years now, and love backing. Keep in mind no big moves, and as soon as the the 5er starts going the way you want, start to straighten out.

    Releasing hitch, make sure the TV, ids not putting forward pressure on the pin, chock the 5er's tires, then back into the pin just a bit.

    It will become easier with practice.