So we're all getting ready to go full timing in the spring trying to figure out the best way obviously to save the taxes on the purchase and save on income taxes going forward. So I think we whittled down our choice of state for residency as Florida but we are considering the Montana LLC to make the purchase. I have been reading a lot on here and other places about the ups and downs of the Montana LLC. I am trying to find any specific knowledge of anybody who is a Florida resident with a Montana Llc and how Florida handles that. And if anyone knows if Florida might be one of those states that would crack down on that. Is there anybody on here who has Florida as their state of domicile and has their RV in a Montana Llc. Our current state is Virginia and we are going to be selling our property here but we will still own several rental properties. I don't think that that would be an issue because I believe you can still own property in the state if its not your rresidence and be a resident of another state? Also on the Florida domicile as far as the DMV and taxes registering an RV do you get charged annual property taxes on your RV there? Or any other annual taxes or fees associated with the rv if we decided to register in Florida rather than the llc. in Virginia there is a hefty annual property tax bill. Would appreciate any help and I'm sorry if I am duplicating many previous questions. Thank you so much for your help

You need professional advice from your LLC attorney, no matter who says what on here. And use paragraphs.

I think your problem is going to the 3 state violation. In Florida you have 30 days to register your vehicles and get your drivers license. Your insurance company is going to want your FLORIDA address to insure the RV, and so you can't have the Montana LLC. Also in most states if you get pulled over and have a license plate from one state and a drivers license from another that can cause a problem also. Florida sales tax is 7% but there is not state/county/city income taxes. JMHO.

Do NOT just look at basic "income tax" as the criteria for your residence, look at the complete tax picture for the states you are checking out. Florida has no income tax, but unless they have changed their overall tax basis recently, you will get raked over the coals if you have any investments and income other than basic retirement type. We actually moved from Florida to a state with an income tax and out tax liability decreased.

Trying to cut through and understand your somewhat convoluted post, but basically you are trying to skirt laws and avoid taxes that most of us follow and pay - right?Good luck.

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1968mooney
Explorer
Oct 27, 2015
Anyone that applies for a LLC in Montana should have mowermech name and address recorded so if they ever have a problem he will give them advise. He is a Professional on the subject so you can rely on his advise. :@
fj12ryder
Explorer III
Oct 27, 2015
vic46 wrote:
Time for this nonsense to stop!
Easy to do, just hit "Hide" button.
vic46
Explorer
Oct 27, 2015
Time for this nonsense to stop!
Turtle_n_Peeps
Explorer
Oct 27, 2015
mowermech wrote:
Moderator wrote:
This is one time it is worthwhile to read ALL the small print. The last three paragraphs are of particular interest.

" Even if you can avoid your state’s sales taxes, you’ll be subject to an equal amount of use tax if you use the vehicle in your home state for more than a very limited amount of time. In many states, you’ll avoid use tax only if you don’t use the vehicle in your state of residence for a full year after you buy it. Others require that you don’t use the vehicle in your state for more than 90 consecutive days."

Like I said, just don't bring it into your home state!
Yes, in many states, your neighbors WILL call and turn you in!
If you don't bring it home, they can't do that.
Yes, some states have license plate inspectors checking repair facilities and storage lots.
If you don't bring it home, they have nothing to see.
KNOW, COMPLY, AND DOCUMENT.
No problem.

^^^ This.

Follow the law and you will have no problems.

A racing buddy has a class 8 reg'ed in Mt through a practicing attorney licensed to do business in both states. What he is doing is perfectly legal according to his attorney who is licensed to do business in both states. The guy does not even have a class A commercial license. And that is perfectly legal according to his attorney who is licensed to practice law in both states.

Follow the law and you will be fine. Don't, and you will more than likely have problems. Simple hu?
mowermech
Explorer
Oct 27, 2015
"Simple. Purchase your new RV in Montana, park it in a storage lot in Montana, and you will have no problem. Do not drive it out of Montana and you can say with authority, I beat my "home" state out of the taxes they desire. Makes you feel good, doesn't it."

Now, that is just silly! You can drive that RV in any state you wish, EXCEPT, perhaps, the state where you live. NO other state cares whether you paid the taxes in your home state, nor do they care if it is registered to a Limited Liability Company in any state.
In fact, it would be quite simple to have on hand a rental agreement from the LLC to the driver. The same laws that cover rental trucks would probably apply.
Again, KNOW, COMPLY, and DOCUMENT!
No matter how one tries to twist it, it really IS just that simple!
1968mooney
Explorer
Oct 27, 2015
mowermech wrote:
Moderator wrote:
This is one time it is worthwhile to read ALL the small print. The last three paragraphs are of particular interest.

" Even if you can avoid your state’s sales taxes, you’ll be subject to an equal amount of use tax if you use the vehicle in your home state for more than a very limited amount of time. In many states, you’ll avoid use tax only if you don’t use the vehicle in your state of residence for a full year after you buy it. Others require that you don’t use the vehicle in your state for more than 90 consecutive days."

Like I said, just don't bring it into your home state!
Yes, in many states, your neighbors WILL call and turn you in!
If you don't bring it home, they can't do that.
Yes, some states have license plate inspectors checking repair facilities and storage lots.
If you don't bring it home, they have nothing to see.
KNOW, COMPLY, AND DOCUMENT.
No problem.

Simple. Purchase your new RV in Montana, park it in a storage lot in Montana, and you will have no problem. Do not drive it out of Montana and you can say with authority, I beat my "home" state out of the taxes they desire. Makes you feel good, doesn't it.
2012Coleman
Explorer II
Oct 27, 2015
The moderator was needed around page 2 of this thread. Scratch another new member. Good work RV.net wolf pack....
majorgator
Explorer
Oct 27, 2015
Shearwater wrote:
Good article Moderator - all light, no heat.

Actually, shame on the moderator for deleting my post!!!
I guess you can't dispute something the moderator says or else you get your stuff deleted.

And all I did was point out how the article being referenced by the moderator, while it presents itself as legal advice, is actually not written by an attorney.

Unfortunately, the moderator must not be able to take any constructive criticism without having their feelings hurt.

Read it fast, this will probably be deleted too.
wbwood
Explorer
Oct 27, 2015
I don't understand why one would want to deal with 3 different states to save a few bucks. One of them will eventually want what they feel is theirs...
mowermech
Explorer
Oct 27, 2015
Moderator wrote:
This is one time it is worthwhile to read ALL the small print. The last three paragraphs are of particular interest.

" Even if you can avoid your state’s sales taxes, you’ll be subject to an equal amount of use tax if you use the vehicle in your home state for more than a very limited amount of time. In many states, you’ll avoid use tax only if you don’t use the vehicle in your state of residence for a full year after you buy it. Others require that you don’t use the vehicle in your state for more than 90 consecutive days."

Like I said, just don't bring it into your home state!
Yes, in many states, your neighbors WILL call and turn you in!
If you don't bring it home, they can't do that.
Yes, some states have license plate inspectors checking repair facilities and storage lots.
If you don't bring it home, they have nothing to see.
KNOW, COMPLY, AND DOCUMENT.
No problem.