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JaxDad
Sep 28, 2017Explorer III
mike-s wrote:
Nebraska has a state seal, no mention of RVIA seals. In order to get the state seal, a manufacturer has to submit process and design documentation. Having an RVIA sticker means nothing - manufacturers still have to do the paperwork.
Washington is similar to Nebraska, and even requires a plant inspection. An RVIA seal means nothing.
California requires manufacturers to place a label stating code compliance, no mention of RVIA seals. Since RVIA expects manufacturers to self-certify, an RVIA seal is a waste of money, a manufacturer could simply print their own.
Oregon just says they must be built to codes. An RVIA seal means nothing.
It seems that you, unable to support your claim, are moving the goalposts.
Regarding the "50 states" thing. Instead of cherry-picking a few states, Point to Michigan and Indiana code which requires a sticker.
I know it's been since yesterday, but I would have hoped you'd read the below post since you replied to it.
JaxDad wrote:mike-s wrote:JaxDad wrote::R LOL. Manufacturers pay for a sticker, and pass the cost on with a profit. There's no real oversight, and absolutely nothing to "demonstrate" that they meet any standard.
the RVIA standard is the 'catch all' certification that demonstrates that the RV meets those standards.
That's an unfounded, and frankly, silly statement. As a legal oversight body the RVIA perform routine audits and spot inspections to ensure that the standards, both ANSI and NFPA, are being met.
Look at the RVIA seal, it merely certifies that NFPA 1192 or some other standard was met.
Nebraska - "Standards for all recreational vehicle types, except
park trailers, dealing with body and frame design, and construc-tion,
and with the installation of plumbing, heating, and electrical systems
in recreational vehicles approved and adopted by the National Fire
Protection Association and known as the NFPA 1192 STANDARD ON
RECREATIONAL VEHICLES 2015 EDITION, are hereby adopted and incorporated by reference.:"
Washington - "The State of Washington has adopted the current edition of NFPA 1192 Standard for Recreational Vehicles- and the current edition of NFPA 70, National Electrical Code Section 551 Recreational Vehicles."
California - "(2) The ANSI A119.2 and A119.5 standards and the NFPA 1192 standards are designed to protect the health and safety of persons using recreational vehicles and park trailers.
(3) Compliance with those standards as required by this section may be enforced by any law enforcement authority having appropriate jurisdiction, pursuant to Section 18020.5, which makes it a crime to violate any provision of this part."
Oregon - "2017 Oregon Recreational Vehicle Safety and Construction Standards
?Effective Jan. 19, 2017
This code consists of the following:
2015 NFPA 1192, Standard on Recreational Vehicles?
2014 NFPA 70, National Electrical Code
2014 ANSI/RVIA Standard for Low Voltage Systems in Conversions and RVs"
If you're not even going to read what's being posted, PLEASE, a) do not continue to post ONLY for the purpose of arguing, and, b) do some research for yourself, it's all out there.
Finally, here's an article from a trade publication. Not the wording;
"These “product light” trailers would still be built to the NFPA 1192 standard and receive a seal, although it is unclear at this point if it would be the standard RVIA seal or a separate FEMA Emergency Living Unit (ELU) seal."
FEMA has the ability to designate the unit as an emergency unit, OR it has to provide people with units that minimum life safety standards.
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