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jeffcarp
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May 01, 2017

Cost of campgrounds

Every once in awhile I read comments in discussions about the high cost of campgrounds, especially when brands like KOA are being discussed.

I wanted to comment on this from the perspective of a business traveler. I think campgrounds are pretty economical. I'm still working full time and travel on business between 50 and 70 nights per year, staying in hotels.

Since the economy bottomed I've noticed a distinct increase in hotel costs. It wasn't many years ago that I'd usually spend <$100 for a Fairfield Inn or Hampton Inn level of accommodation except in major metros. I could get a decent hotel within the Marriott brand family for $150 almost anywhere but the biggest cities. Now rooms in most small towns are in the $125 range. Near metro areas those rooms are in the $150's. In many major urban areas I'm seeing a minimum of $250 and regularly pay closer to $300 when there's a lot going on in town.

In March we vacationed in Florida and looked to stay somewhere in the Palm Beach to Ft Lauderdale area. Inland hotels during the week were running over $300 and anything close to the water was running $400+

But what's truly amazing are the taxes. I make a habit to look at my receipt every time I check out of a hotel and look at the total taxes. Even at the low end of hotel costs $125-$150, a single night's taxes will pay for most campground nights in full.

I guess my point is that I think that campground rates are pretty reasonable all things considered. I don't think twice about a $40 campground anymore. I'd except to pay $60+ for a nice location in a major tourist metro. Splurging on a luxurious property or location for $100 is understandable in my opinion.

Personally, I want campground owners to continue to make money to put to upkeep and expansion and to encourage other owners to build new. I don't want campground owners to sell to a condo developer that wants to build vertically in that same piece of real estate.

I do appreciate that fixed income RVers can't handle the the increasing cost of campgrounds but I think that's a societal problem much deeper than campground costs.
  • I do appreciate that. I know a guy that bought a resort and added a RV park near Tablerock Lake. He works his butt off.

    One thing I wish RV park owners would copy from the hotel industry is that most hotels now list room square footage in their room details listing online. I'd like to see site dimensions listed for campgrounds.
  • jeffcarp wrote:
    Every once in awhile I read comments in discussions about the high cost of campgrounds, especially when brands like KOA are being discussed.

    I wanted to comment on this from the perspective of a business traveler. I think campgrounds are pretty economical. I'm still working full time and travel on business between 50 and 70 nights per year, staying in hotels.

    Since the economy bottomed I've noticed a distinct increase in hotel costs. It wasn't many years ago that I'd usually spend <$100 for a Fairfield Inn or Hampton Inn level of accommodation except in major metros. I could get a decent hotel within the Marriott brand family for $150 almost anywhere but the biggest cities. Now rooms in most small towns are in the $125 range. Near metro areas those rooms are in the $150's. In many major urban areas I'm seeing a minimum of $250 and regularly pay closer to $300 when there's a lot going on in town.

    In March we vacationed in Florida and looked to stay somewhere in the Palm Beach to Ft Lauderdale area. Inland hotels during the week were running over $300 and anything close to the water was running $400+

    But what's truly amazing are the taxes. I make a habit to look at my receipt every time I check out of a hotel and look at the total taxes. Even at the low end of hotel costs $125-$150, a single night's taxes will pay for most campground nights in full.

    I guess my point is that I think that campground rates are pretty reasonable all things considered. I don't think twice about a $40 campground anymore. I'd except to pay $60+ for a nice location in a major tourist metro. Splurging on a luxurious property or location for $100 is understandable in my opinion.

    Personally, I want campground owners to continue to make money to put to upkeep and expansion and to encourage other owners to build new. I don't want campground owners to sell to a condo developer that wants to build vertically in that same piece of real estate.

    I do appreciate that fixed income RVers can't handle the the increasing cost of campgrounds but I think that's a societal problem much deeper than campground costs.
    Thanks. It is nice to know some people do appreciate the effort and expense park owners put in to run a good park.
  • Much less chance you'll find bed bugs in your camper too. Not so sure with Hotel rooms.
  • Lwiddis wrote:
    "And I know what you mean about hotels after 30 yrs of traveling for work. From hotels less than $75 a night a number of years ago, to the same chain charging $150 and up."

    BB, are you making twice what you did 30 years ago...or more?

    I have been retired 9 years. The first 15-20 yrs of business travel, hotel rates increased at a relatively slow rate. The last 10 yrs of business travel, the rate increases began to gain speed rapidly, in no small part due to increased taxes and fees levied by various government entities.
    My income increases went the opposite direction as the cost of living indexes decreased thru those same years.
  • Let us not forget about the individual(s) who spends tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of $$$ on all their RV gear and then complains on here about a RV park costing $20/night more than another RV park down the road.

    I agree with what you're saying OP as I travel for work, staying in hotels as well. I generally stick with a Marriott brand too and agree with exactly what you are referring to.
  • I don't mind paying a reasonable price for a site so long as the park is not ****, and the wardens do their job at keeping it peacefull and quiet.
  • "And I know what you mean about hotels after 30 yrs of traveling for work. From hotels less than $75 a night a number of years ago, to the same chain charging $150 and up."

    BB, are you making twice what you did 30 years ago...or more?
  • I agree campgrounds of any price are a better deal than a hotel room. Even higher-end campgrounds are still less than a Motel 6. And even if you are in a rotten campground, you still have your own clean sheets and bathroom in your RV!
  • Most who complain about KOA rates state that they don't need the amenities and don't want to pay for them. And that is fine. Actual problems stated about the park itself are not out of line with complaints about any other privately owned park. And for those people, there are a multitude of basic, low frills parks around to serve their needs for lower prices. But there still seems to be that need to complain about prices.

    And I know what you mean about hotels after 30 yrs of traveling for work. From hotels less than $75 a night a number of years ago, to the same chain charging $150 and up.

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