first commercially available all electric RV

I just went back to manufacturer site, and the solar capacity is stated as 1600-2000-or2400W
So I don’t know where you get only 600W. Anyway I am not buying one and nor are you obviously.
It is clear that some on hear have not got much idea about new technology and the rest of the world.
Frank.

valhalla360 wrote:

Skibane wrote:

None of what you're describing comes anywhere close to meeting the definition of "indefinitely".

If there is no sunlight available, no amount of solar panel "upsizing" is going to help.

You are going to run out of power.

If you want to be pedantic.

Sure if you park for a month in deep heavy forest and never leave, it won't work.

If you want to actually use the RV during that time (i.e., cook meals, run the heater to keep warm, refrigerate your foods etc.) - You're going to run out of power in several days - not months.

But for non-pedantic potential buyers with more typical use patterns, it's very much viable.

So they've got that snob appeal thing going for them: "It's the RV for sophisticated, non-pedantic buyers..."

I'm always amused at the contortions people are willing to put themselves through to deny the impracticality of "green" RVs: "Oh yeah, they work just great - as long as you're willing to give up X, Y and Z..."

Slownsy wrote:
I think that som of you need to read. It says power by 14k Battery and 1600-2000w of solar.

The base model on the website indicated 7k and 600w. How many thousands is the upgraded system over the $79k starting price?

Yes, electric only systems are viable but this model seems overpriced for what it is.

Skibane wrote:

None of what you're describing comes anywhere close to meeting the definition of "indefinitely".

If there is no sunlight available, no amount of solar panel "upsizing" is going to help.

You are going to run out of power.

If you want to be pedantic.

Sure if you park for a month in deep heavy forest and never leave, it won't work.

But for non-pedantic potential buyers with more typical use patterns, it's very much viable. Even in heavily shaded sites, if you start with 100% charge, you should be good for several days.

time2roll wrote:

Skibane wrote:
So you get to sleep right on top of an air conditioner that's cycling on and off all night?

Compared to the roof shaker over the bed? How bad can it be?

OOPS! Posted in the wrong place! Sorry. :o

Skibane wrote:

Slownsy wrote:
so are you saying that Americans park there vehicles with solar in the shade

In that regard, roof-mounted panels tend to be counterproductive: The power they produce by parking the RV in full sunlight is offset by the extra power required to keep the RV cool...due to the extra heat buildup from parking in full sunlight.

That’s possibly the nuttiest thing I’ve ever read here.

Slownsy wrote:
so are you saying that Americans park there vehicles with solar in the shade

The ones with portable solar panels do.

The panels go wherever the sunlight is, and the RV stays in the shade.

Shade greatly reduces heat buildup inside the RV - which in turn reduces the amount of power required to keep it comfortable.

In that regard, roof-mounted panels tend to be counterproductive: The power they produce by parking the RV in full sunlight is offset by the extra power required to keep the RV cool...due to the extra heat buildup from parking in full sunlight.

As far as toilet goes most al places has som sort of toilet, or you have to be fully self contained, most of those places also has a time limits for staying, drinking water can be brought in by containers or water bladders if not wanting to shift trailer. Camping is only allowed in designated areas, but overnight can be done in roadside rest area's.
Frank.

1 yes possible. But solar panels also create shade for roof, so are you saying that Americans park there vehicles with solar in the shade, I don’t think so, and I never did if wanting to charge batteries.
2 yes manny people park in the shade, but most don’t have much in the way of solar and live outside there trailer only used as a bedroom.
Frank.

Slownsy wrote:
And lastly hear in OZ we do get a lot of sunshine.

In OZ, do RVs not stay cooler when they're parked in shade than in sunshine?

Do not most RVers in OZ prefer to park in the shade, for this reason?