Flying J / Pilot to install megachargers for med/heavy trks

wildtoad wrote:
Slavery has existed for thousands of years (and sadly exists to day), yet people still go to see the pyramids, and the other “wonders of the world”. We buy trillions of dollars worth of goods from our enemy China much of it built with slave labor, yet we still buy their stuff. I’m ok with folks not buying a product or component there of on moral grounds, but be consistent. Check the labels and don’t buy from countries that use slave labor, or are our enemies.

Kind of hard for me to take a stand against slavery in another country when there are many people in this one that work for profitable companies, but can't afford a decent standard of living.
Also, how do we determine who is "Enemy"? All my life Russia has topped the list. Now we have congress critters and other talking heads supporting Russia against democracy.
And we sell weapons to the last country that attacked US, killed on US soil, to use against counties that have never attacked US.

wildtoad wrote:
As one of, if not the largest fuel company in the USA, I expect Pilot to aggressively provide support for electric trucks and cars. It matters not how many chargers they install, it won’t be enough unless charging times come way down.

Yes, will take a lot of chargers. But shortly after I retired some truckstops started taking reservations for overnight parking. By law, a solo driver must be parked for 10 hours. If could do that while hooked to charger you had a reservation for, not much reduction in productivity.

wildtoad wrote:
As one of, if not the largest fuel company in the USA, I expect Pilot to aggressively provide support for electric trucks and cars. It matters not how many chargers they install, it won’t be enough unless charging times come way down.

I tend to agree with this. Most electric semis seem to be around that 45 minutes to 60 minutes for a charge. I’m not sure how the fleet operators will work that in to the numbers. From a personal experience stand point just hauling our little trailer behind our EV I think it’s better to stop more often and charge more often. The charge rates are higher in the bottom 2/3 of the battery than the top 1/3. So maybe it’s better to stop every 3 hours for 15 minutes.

For the kind of medium duty truck that would haul our big RV fifth wheels the numbers might be different. They have smaller batteries and will probably charge faster, maybe, who knows. It’s hard to find that info on then.

But good to see those who want them will have a place to charge. I wonder if Loves will be next.

Safe travels in the new year all.

As one of, if not the largest fuel company in the USA, I expect Pilot to aggressively provide support for electric trucks and cars. It matters not how many chargers they install, it won’t be enough unless charging times come way down.

Slavery has existed for thousands of years (and sadly exists to day), yet people still go to see the pyramids, and the other “wonders of the world”. We buy trillions of dollars worth of goods from our enemy China much of it built with slave labor, yet we still buy their stuff. I’m ok with folks not buying a product or component there of on moral grounds, but be consistent. Check the labels and don’t buy from countries that use slave labor, or are our enemies.

I have no dog in this fight. But appears to me if there is a Cobalt slave trade connection it had to exist long before EV vehicles. I don't think the slave trade just came about with the creation of EV's.
Are you implying the Cobalt slave trade connection is direct a result of EV vehicles?
While I don't doubt EV's increased the demand for Cobalt. Blaming EV's for the slave trade is misleading.

I have been on this forum for many many years and have seen less sensitive post be deleted.

It seems not only does the "administrator" allow it but encourages this thread to continue.

It seems a new standard has been set, so long to a friendly forum setting. Its just to bad!

free radical wrote:

Where was your anger when we bombed Iraq stole their oil and murdered milions of muslims including women and children.

Same in Afganistan Syria Lybia Serbia Vietnam.

And you want to brag about defending human rights ??

And then there's China who accounts for 42% of all goods shipped to the US.

Since the admin mentioned the persecution of the Jews, China has been systematically trying to eliminate the Uyghurs for years.

;)

https://youtu.be/63kJr-3_f_4

dedmiston wrote:
Did I hijack a thread? Yes. And normally I would apologize to the Reisenders, but they start enough threads that they can spare one.

And is this bad manners on my part? Absolutely yes.

But what's worse, bad manners or slavery?

There is a ton of cheerleading for EVs on this forum and I've been pretty fair about not interjecting into the discussions except when the cheerleaders hijack other threads. But that was until I saw this info about the Chinese owned slave mines in the Congo.

In my opinion it's wrong of me to stand by and not say anything about the proliferation of the EVs when that's exacerbating the human rights problems.

Honestly, I don't know that I've ever met anyone from the Congo and I don't actually know anything about the Congolese. Maybe they're all jerks and don't deserve our concern. That's doubtful, but maybe.

But a lot of Americans didn't have strong enough convictions to stand up and say anything about the Jews in the 40s. What if we had?

It seems like a good time to take a stand though. Pick a side. Be on the side who buys a new EV and makes the problem worse, or be on the side who stands up and says it's wrong and tries to hold the EV buyers accountable.

Where was your anger when we bombed Iraq stole their oil and murdered milions of muslims including women and children.

Same in Afganistan Syria Lybia Serbia Vietnam.

And you want to brag about defending human rights ??

dedmiston wrote:
YouTube link:

The Disturbing Reality of Cobalt Mining for Rechargeable Batteries

Am I suposed to believe some anti ev troll just bc hes on JR show?

if you have problem w child labor contact United Nations.

Btv Tesla doesnt use cobalt in their batteries.

Btw your Iphone and computer uses rechargable batts also,will you throw it away now.?