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Chaos
Explorer
Apr 30, 2013

Ford Explorer for towing

We just bought a new travel trailer. Manufacturer spec is 4,000 lbs dry weight. Now we need a tow vehicle. We are considering a 2006-2010 Ford Explorer with V8 engine and class IV WDH. Does that sound adequate, with some left over? I know that GVWR, GAWR and GCWR all come into play but I haven't gotten that all figured out just yet. I also want to be sure we aren't maxing out the system and unnecessarily putting excess strain on the TV.
  • The numbers on the Durango make no sense anyway. GCWR 11000 lbs, max trailer weight rating 8950, curb weight 4758, leaving a payload capacity of -2708. Yes, negative. Why say trailer weight of 8950 when the maximum possible would be just over 6000?

    Okay, I know why, it's just frustrating.

    I've calculated needed TV specs as follows:
    Payload 1980
    Trailer wt rating 7600
    Tongue weight 1140

    Those numbers are based on the max ratings of the trailer, plus 20% margin.

    Is there any way to guesstimate what the added load on the rear axle would be? So as to compare with the rear gross axle weight rating.
  • I would skip the midsize SUV and go with an Expedition or Tahoe/Yukon for a 26' trailer and that weight.

    My previous trailer was a 4200# TrailCruiser 26BH. Really was a nice towing experience with my Expedition. The newer ones would be even better.
  • we tow a 1500lB popup with our v6 Explorer, it tows it just fine. Big difference in the v6 and v8, the 1500 vice 4000 lBs, and the 14'vice 26', but suspect it would tow it OK, not great but OK. I would only go short distances, I would imagine that it would not be a easy tow, but doable.
  • Chaos wrote:
    ---I know that GVWR, GAWR and GCWR all come into play but I haven't gotten that all figured out just yet. I also want to be sure we aren't maxing out the system and unnecessarily putting excess strain on the TV.
    Your towing capacity most likely will be limited by the trailer's tongue weight and the tow vehicle's available payload capacity which is equal to the TV's GVWR minus its unhitched weight when loaded for camping.

    To make an estimate of the loaded tongue weight, we need to know the TT's unloaded vehicle weight which should be printed on the loading information sticker.
    We also need to know how much weight of cargo you plan to carry in the TT when loaded for camping.

    To make an estimate of available payload, we need your best estimate of the total weight of occupants and cargo which will be carried in the TV when loaded for camping.

    Ron
  • Approx 26' feet long? Way too long for the Explorer's wheelbase, IMO. Had a 2002 Explorer with which we pulled a 23' HTT and even with good sway control, it was the tail wagging the dog. I'd recommend an excellent brake controller, BTW - you'd have enough engine for this tow, most likely, but Explorer brakes always left me a little concerned. Good luck with your decision.
  • Chaos wrote:
    Okay, reading more, it seems like it should be okay but

    not great due to the short wheel base[/b\]

    and narrowness of the vehicle. Back to the drawing board I guess.


    If you are at the stage where you can CHOOSE what tow vehicle do yourself a favor and stay away from short wheel based SUV's.

    I tried it. It sucked and it was a real pain towing the TT with one.
    Kinda takes all the fun out of RV'ing!
  • well, it would help knowing what trailers you're looking at.
    simply quoting a fictional "dry" weight isn't enough info, since no trailer weighs the brochure "dry" weight.

    length, tongue weight, CCC weight, GVWR along with the "dry" weight.
    even better would be the actual yellow sticker weight. that would be the weight when it left the factory.

    as far as the older v-8 Explorer, they were fine paired with the right length/weight trailer. as long as a good WDH with built-in sway control was used, such as the Equal-i-zer or Reese Dual-Cam.
  • Okay, reading more, it seems like it should be okay but not great due to the short wheel base and narrowness of the vehicle. Back to the drawing board I guess.