Four major cities outside U.S. ban diesel by 2025

Campinfan wrote:
I may be wrong but I thought the pollution from our diesels was lower than theirs and aren't the emissions less from the new diesels than from a gasser?

I believe it is a particulate thing. Also part of the problem is how any are modified after for more power etc.

Another thing you see mentioned is noise. Diesels are still fairly noisy. Gassers less and electric dead quiet. From what I hear even busy Norwegian cities are becoming very quiet places. I know both our electric vehicles have "noise makers" so they generate at least a gentle humming sound to warm pedestrians.

I may be wrong but I thought the pollution from our diesels was lower than theirs and aren't the emissions less from the new diesels than from a gasser?

These guys seem to be working towards a solution.

http://www.pcmag.com/news/350040/electric-nikola-one-marks-end-of-diesel-engines

http://www.pcmag.com/news/350040/electric-nikola-one-marks-end-of-diesel-engines

Don't worry about it here until California does it. Here's the real conundrum... trains engines use diesel, unless they run wires everywhere.

DutchmenSport wrote:
Unless things REALLY change in the USA, I don't see a ban on diesel occurring anywhere in the US. For starters, our nation depends upon 18 wheeler Semi-trucks for the movement of too many goods. Take, for example only 1 company that is nation wide, ... WalMart! Just imagine if 18 wheeler WalMart trucks were banned from some locations! No, I just can't imagine it happening in the USA.

I don't know. Europe has the same issues. They seem to be managing there. They are not trying to ban diesel transport, just limit or eliminate diesel vehicles in the cities.

Unless things REALLY change in the USA, I don't see a ban on diesel occurring anywhere in the US. For starters, our nation depends upon 18 wheeler Semi-trucks for the movement of too many goods. Take, for example only 1 company that is nation wide, ... WalMart! Just imagine if 18 wheeler WalMart trucks were banned from some locations! No, I just can't imagine it happening in the USA.

in addition to this ban, there are already some european cities that ban all but the lowest pollution gas vehicles or electric vehicles from near city centers already. The license plates in some european countries also designate what polution levels they meet, usually in terms of CO2, so it is easy to enforce. Some of these are 24/7 bans some are bans for certain days or hours.

mowermech wrote:
I do not think such a ban will ever occur here, and I have no intention of going to any of those cities in my truck, so I'm not too concerned about it.
If diesels are ever banned in Montana cities, I will probably be long dead before it happens, so I'm not very concerned about that, either.

I can see it happening in some cities such as LA. As the tolerance for air pollution drops it is a logical step to improve air quality. I have read a couple of other spin off articles of this one and the one thing that has been stressed is it is not about global warming or climate chage or any other political hot button. It is simply about air quality. I think you are right though. It will be slowest to come to North America. Some european countries are going much further. Norway, Holland etc will completely ban any vehicle with internal combustion engines by 2025 and 2026. So yah, depending on where you live in the world it will come sooner than later. Peer pressure will move it forward from there. When one cities air is literally 100's of time cleaner than another cities public pressure will force the change.

Until then we'll get a few more miles out of our motorhome.

I do not think such a ban will ever occur here, and I have no intention of going to any of those cities in my truck, so I'm not too concerned about it.
If diesels are ever banned in Montana cities, I will probably be long dead before it happens, so I'm not very concerned about that, either.