Gate Attendants versus Campground Hosting
Gate attendant or campground host? For those that have DONE BOTH in COE campgrounds, which position would you prefer? I know that one normally has pay and one is volunteer. Payment is not an issu...
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My wife and I were contract Gate Attendants for 16 years and successfully completed 24 contracts, for a while we worked summer and winter contracts.
If I had to say what the one biggest draw back to our contracts was it would be the hours required in the gate house. Most required 16 hours a day and a four day on four day off cycle. While the contract did not specify that both of us had to be in the gate house at the same time, except at busy times, we found that both of us were in there 80% of the time. I should add that this requirement was clear in the contract and we were well aware of it. The need for this was also crystal clear.
During your 8 hours out of the gate house in the 4 day cycle you were on call for emergencies, customer problems and answer the phone. This can cause a real problem trying to get some sleep.
As it was a bid situation I can not complain about the net amount per hour the going successful bid produced but rest assured minimum wage hourly positions would have been higher in most cases. It should be noted that there are definite tax advantages to being a contractor as opposed to an hourly employee. One should also consider the cost of the site when looking at the net income for your efforts as it is free when you are on your duty days as well as off.
There is a myriad of paper work necessary to get started. Registering for A Dunn and Brad Street number is mandatory, no cost involved. Registration with several government agencies was required but they have just recently reduced this to a couple with Sam.gov being the minimal required, again at no cost. Others are for the checking for available bid opportunities. Then there is the submitting of bids. We can't say this strongly enough, Read The Contract!. We have run in to a few that did not and bid entirely to low. There are other expenses involved like purchasing money orders, postage and fuel. Sometimes office supplies are supplied sometimes not. A few require the successful bidder provide equipment like lawn mowers and other outside tools, but not many. You will be required to have bond for both of you and vehicle insurance and vehicle to meet the contract requirements. At the end of each 4 day cycle you will be making a deposit. The way the deposit is made varies from district to district. Reports are required which for the most part are computer generated. Computer skills are mandatory.
We have always said that as a gate attendants you are one of two things:
1. Bored out of your mind.
or
2. Busy beyond belief.
You can be both in the same 16 hour day.
We have never bid maintenance contracts so we won't address them other then to say we ran in to several people that under bid and it ended up costing them money to complete the contract.
Having completed several winters as a volunteer fee hosts we found the paper work excessive, no computer. The hours required in the gate house, five to six per day, were also excessive. Even when not in the gate house we were required to address visitor issues, emergencies and answer the phone 24 hours a day when on duty. The on duty cycle was either four on and four off or seven on and seven off. Basically a paid gate attendant position with ten or eleven hours less in the gate house without pay. Deposits were handled by the Park Rangers. A bond was necessary but in most cases the cost was reimbursed. The vehicle requirements and associated costs were the same as a contract position. While this type of position is fine for some people it wasn't something we wanted to continue.
We retired last year and are now strictly security and fee compliance hosts. We have very little contact with customers and we're getting 8 hours sleep a night. Our winter position is seven days a week our summer position is four days a week. Hours required are whatever is needed to complete the assigned duties. While there is no pay involved a full hookup site is provided. We consider this as income as we do not have to spend the money for a nice site and no taxes are involved. There are costs associated with these positions as well, mostly fuel to perform the patrols.
If you have specific questions I would be glad to attempt to answer them.
If I had to say what the one biggest draw back to our contracts was it would be the hours required in the gate house. Most required 16 hours a day and a four day on four day off cycle. While the contract did not specify that both of us had to be in the gate house at the same time, except at busy times, we found that both of us were in there 80% of the time. I should add that this requirement was clear in the contract and we were well aware of it. The need for this was also crystal clear.
During your 8 hours out of the gate house in the 4 day cycle you were on call for emergencies, customer problems and answer the phone. This can cause a real problem trying to get some sleep.
As it was a bid situation I can not complain about the net amount per hour the going successful bid produced but rest assured minimum wage hourly positions would have been higher in most cases. It should be noted that there are definite tax advantages to being a contractor as opposed to an hourly employee. One should also consider the cost of the site when looking at the net income for your efforts as it is free when you are on your duty days as well as off.
There is a myriad of paper work necessary to get started. Registering for A Dunn and Brad Street number is mandatory, no cost involved. Registration with several government agencies was required but they have just recently reduced this to a couple with Sam.gov being the minimal required, again at no cost. Others are for the checking for available bid opportunities. Then there is the submitting of bids. We can't say this strongly enough, Read The Contract!. We have run in to a few that did not and bid entirely to low. There are other expenses involved like purchasing money orders, postage and fuel. Sometimes office supplies are supplied sometimes not. A few require the successful bidder provide equipment like lawn mowers and other outside tools, but not many. You will be required to have bond for both of you and vehicle insurance and vehicle to meet the contract requirements. At the end of each 4 day cycle you will be making a deposit. The way the deposit is made varies from district to district. Reports are required which for the most part are computer generated. Computer skills are mandatory.
We have always said that as a gate attendants you are one of two things:
1. Bored out of your mind.
or
2. Busy beyond belief.
You can be both in the same 16 hour day.
We have never bid maintenance contracts so we won't address them other then to say we ran in to several people that under bid and it ended up costing them money to complete the contract.
Having completed several winters as a volunteer fee hosts we found the paper work excessive, no computer. The hours required in the gate house, five to six per day, were also excessive. Even when not in the gate house we were required to address visitor issues, emergencies and answer the phone 24 hours a day when on duty. The on duty cycle was either four on and four off or seven on and seven off. Basically a paid gate attendant position with ten or eleven hours less in the gate house without pay. Deposits were handled by the Park Rangers. A bond was necessary but in most cases the cost was reimbursed. The vehicle requirements and associated costs were the same as a contract position. While this type of position is fine for some people it wasn't something we wanted to continue.
We retired last year and are now strictly security and fee compliance hosts. We have very little contact with customers and we're getting 8 hours sleep a night. Our winter position is seven days a week our summer position is four days a week. Hours required are whatever is needed to complete the assigned duties. While there is no pay involved a full hookup site is provided. We consider this as income as we do not have to spend the money for a nice site and no taxes are involved. There are costs associated with these positions as well, mostly fuel to perform the patrols.
If you have specific questions I would be glad to attempt to answer them.
