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- NC_HaulerExplorerDoesn't alway's apply....There are now 5er's that come with LT tires. A Michelin XPS RIB would be much more trusted as an "E" rated tire on a 6,000# axle over a lot of ST tires on the market. A lot of the ST tires that are manufactured in China have little to no Quality process accountability in their manufacturing process....
For 5er's over 10,000-12,000#...I'd be hard pressed to use a regular ST tire. Sailun tires, manufactured in China have a Quality process in place and are accredited ISO 16969 and 14001 accredited...I'd look at and possibly purchase their tires, but until some of these ST tires on the market are proven to be a trustworthy tire, it really doesn't matter what tirerack or any one else say's about them....just look on the forum and read the post of real life LT and ST tire users...
For lightweight trailers, 5er's, lawnmowers, boat trailers, they have their place, but on heavy to heavier 5er's and TT's....I don't trust them, as do a lot of others on this forum - SBL9AExplorerThe Chinese can't make safe dogfood. I don't trust them to make tires.
Tom - skipncharExplorerI guess I was unaware that there was any QUESTION about using P rated tires for duel axle trailers. It's a lot like when Jethro said he wanted to be a brain surgeon or a street car conductor. They're two classes you seldom see compared because NOBODY would consider using Ps on a trailer would they?
- NC_HaulerExplorer
skipnchar wrote:
I guess I was unaware that there was any QUESTION about using P rated tires for duel axle trailers. It's a lot like when Jethro said he wanted to be a brain surgeon or a street car conductor. They're two classes you seldom see compared because NOBODY would consider using Ps on a trailer would they?
Yep, don't know anyone that would use a "P" rated tire on a trailer, but one never knows:) - artguysExplorerAs I've posted on other threads...always check country of origin before giving up any form of payment. That is for any tire that comes from China. There are lots of very good choices in tires that come from the pacific rim, none from China that I know of.
- fla-gypsyExplorerAnyone who would P tires on a trailer is not going to read this either. Some of the info in some of those tire topics was dubious.
- NC_HaulerExplorer
artguys wrote:
As I've posted on other threads...always check country of origin before giving up any form of payment. That is for any tire that comes from China. There are lots of very good choices in tires that come from the pacific rim, none from China that I know of.
Would almost completely agree, with the exception of the Sailun tire, which is manufactured in China, and as I stated earlier is a tire with a quality back ground..only one I know of made in china.. They're ISO16939 and 14001 accredited. You don't achieve these certifications without a quality processes put into the manufacturing process. Only Chinese manufactured tire that I'm aware of that has achieved this level of Quality and Manufacturing Management. - tatestExplorer III would expect these quality standards to be met by Chinese manufactured Michelins, which were OEM on my Chinese manufactured Audi A6, neither of which are exported.
Most European, Japanese, and Korean companies manufacturing in China, for the market in China, have these process quality programs in place. We imposed them on our Chinese partners. Chinese consumers understand these differences and will pay premium prices for Japanese, Korean, German, Swiss and Swedish branded products manufactured locally, knowing that the products meet the standards of the brand-owning partners.
The real problems with Chinese manufactured exports for the U.S. market is that the importers are buying at the lowest prices they can get, having little involvement with the manufacturing source beyond the handshake and the contract.
China is beginning to understand this, and starting export quality Chinese brands (Haier being one example in appliances) learning to do their own marketing, manufacturing at higher cost to produce better quality, making up for it by eliminating the U.S.-side partners and middlemen whose emphasis on lowest cost for highest margins stands at the root of the quality problems.
Just as with our earlier experiences with Japan, Korea and Taiwan, the issue is not that the sources cannot or will not manufacture higher quality products, it is that the importers who set product specifications are asking for low costs and accepting junk.
Back to the original post, you must take advice from Tire Rack in the context of what it is, a marketing tool to convince you to buy what they want to sell you. That does not mean it is bad advice. - transamz9Explorer
NC Hauler wrote:
skipnchar wrote:
I guess I was unaware that there was any QUESTION about using P rated tires for duel axle trailers. It's a lot like when Jethro said he wanted to be a brain surgeon or a street car conductor. They're two classes you seldom see compared because NOBODY would consider using Ps on a trailer would they?
Yep, don't know anyone that would use a "P" rated tire on a trailer, but one never knows:)
I run "P" rated tires on my tandem boat trailer.
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