This morning I'm looking at the door on the refrigerator in my Forest River 19RR Toy Hauler. The decorative wood front panel never fit properly. It was cut just a bit to small and pops out of the channel that holds it. I realized that the edge molding on the door simply pops off and the panel can be slid out.When I removed the panel I saw that the factory used a bunch of tooth picks to prop up the too small panel and hold it in place. The toothpicks moved and and the panel dropped down a bit. Simply amazing that they can't even cut a simple panel to the correct size.And we pay big $$ for this ****!

As long as we keep buying junk, they will continue to make junk. If that's the only quality problem you have, you're lucky.

Absolutely not the only issue. Although I've experienced zero performance issues, the way they cut holes for tail lights to the garbage, wood sawdust, cigarette butts and other trash behind the heater, electric panel, etc. Why do they use inferior plastic bushings in the suspension that failed within 1500 miles of use. And I replaced with a superior aftermarket system with greaseable bronze bushings for a bit over $100. Why isn't this system used from the factory?Why does the plaque on the side of the trailer say 15" wheels and tires and my trailer was delivered with 14"?Why do the specs say 45g fresh water but the tank only holds 30 (Forest River agreed to send me the proper tant but there is no way to retrofit without tearing the whole trailer apart. The idiot on the assembly line must have grabbed the wrong tank.....)When I reconfigured the storage area at the front of the camper, less than 50% of the screws securing the bed hit a stud. The rest simply were into 1/8" paneling. This week I reversed both the closet door and the bathroom door. Why on God's green earth they opened into the living area instead of the bedroom, I'll never know.Why is the subwoofer for the 5 channel surround sound right over the bed in the bedroom!!!! Want to watch TV with spouse sleeping.....Yea, that will be a good idea! I installed a switch to shut it off.I've modified dozens of little things. Who is designing these things. Do they ever actually camp in them?Ugh!

Why did you purchase a "hunk of junk" like that?

Rbertalotto wrote:Why do they use inferior plastic bushings in the suspension that failed within 1500 miles of use. And I replaced with a superior aftermarket system with greaseable bronze bushings for a bit over $100. Why isn't this system used from the factory?This one is easy.....because the plastic is $100 cheaper!!!!!

Well, look at it his way... At least the tooth picks were well made! If they've been there since 2011 and you just now found them, sounds like they held up pretty good!

Hard to Believe..Terrible QC | Good Sam Community

1968mooney
Explorer
Mar 02, 2017
Tom/Barb wrote:
colliehauler wrote:
Tom/Barb wrote:
For the bucks spent, I'd rather have a quality built used RV than a lower quality new one any day.
The Cherokee 19RR Wolf Pup TH is the low cost TH for its size, The regular Cherokee 19 foot TH was (discontinued) was almost twice the price, same mfg.

While if they only spent a few minutes more on build times they would have a better product and higher customer satisfaction. Sadly the customer is QC.

thankfully the type of web site will cause the new buyers to vote with their cash.

:@
Tom_Barb
Explorer
Mar 02, 2017
colliehauler wrote:
Tom/Barb wrote:
For the bucks spent, I'd rather have a quality built used RV than a lower quality new one any day.
The Cherokee 19RR Wolf Pup TH is the low cost TH for its size, The regular Cherokee 19 foot TH was (discontinued) was almost twice the price, same mfg.

While if they only spent a few minutes more on build times they would have a better product and higher customer satisfaction. Sadly the customer is QC.

thankfully the type of web site will cause the new buyers to vote with their cash.
colliehauler
Explorer III
Mar 01, 2017
Tom/Barb wrote:
For the bucks spent, I'd rather have a quality built used RV than a lower quality new one any day.
The Cherokee 19RR Wolf Pup TH is the low cost TH for its size, The regular Cherokee 19 foot TH was (discontinued) was almost twice the price, same mfg.

While if they only spent a few minutes more on build times they would have a better product and higher customer satisfaction. Sadly the customer is QC.
Tom_Barb
Explorer
Mar 01, 2017
For the bucks spent, I'd rather have a quality built used RV than a lower quality new one any day.
1968mooney
Explorer
Mar 01, 2017
Old-Biscuit wrote:
drsteve wrote:
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Piece work.......Quality

2 concepts that are at opposite ends of spectrum

"Come On folks. 12 units for today. Get them done by Noon and we ALL can go home!"

Not necessarily. What they are lacking is quality control inspectors.

"Nobody goes home until these 12 units can pass QC! Do it right the first time, guys!"

That unfortunately is NOT how 'piece work' is done.
If you ever get the chance go on a factory tour where piece work is used.......folks RUNNING here/there
No slow down, no rework, no REAL oversight----just slap them together/git r done.

Seen it, experienced it (in housing construction), tried to deal with it ....HAahahaha

"We get them built, if complaints then that is what the 'pickup man' is for....."

Dealers ARE the pickup man for RV Mfg.
Some good----most just wish customer would go away.

Great reasons to avoid purchasing a RV of any kind. Enjoyed traveling for 6 yrs. in Holiday Rambler MH"s without any breakdowns. Never in a Dealers shop. From what I read, those kind of RV's are not available now. Nothing but junk. Keeps me out of the market along with many others.
bikendan
Explorer
Mar 01, 2017
B.O. Plenty wrote:
I don't understand why everyone that has a trailer built by a Forest River company, just refer to them as a "Forest River" trailer. Which of the many Forest River companies built it?

B.O.

agree. how often do you hear about a "Thor" trailer? Thor Industries is the biggest RV manufacturer, whose brands have the same issues as Forest River brands.
but you don't hear them calling a Keystone/Montana/Crossroads/Cruiser/Dutchmen/DRV/Heartland/Open Range/Jayco/Starcraft/KZ/Redwood/Venture trailer, a "Thor" trailer.:S
rexlion
Explorer
Mar 01, 2017
Since your wooden toothpicks failed, I can supply you with special, plastic toothpicks... I mean shims!... for only $99. Add $115 for optional color match... :D

Oh well. Look on the bright side. When you lie in your poorly attached bed at night and look up, you can be thankful that you don't see stars! ;)
B_O__Plenty
Explorer II
Mar 01, 2017
I don't understand why everyone that has a trailer built by a Forest River company, just refer to them as a "Forest River" trailer. Which of the many Forest River companies built it?

B.O.
Old-Biscuit
Explorer III
Mar 01, 2017
drsteve wrote:
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Piece work.......Quality

2 concepts that are at opposite ends of spectrum

"Come On folks. 12 units for today. Get them done by Noon and we ALL can go home!"

Not necessarily. What they are lacking is quality control inspectors.

"Nobody goes home until these 12 units can pass QC! Do it right the first time, guys!"

That unfortunately is NOT how 'piece work' is done.
If you ever get the chance go on a factory tour where piece work is used.......folks RUNNING here/there
No slow down, no rework, no REAL oversight----just slap them together/git r done.

Seen it, experienced it (in housing construction), tried to deal with it ....HAahahaha

"We get them built, if complaints then that is what the 'pickup man' is for....."

Dealers ARE the pickup man for RV Mfg.
Some good----most just wish customer would go away.
drsteve
Explorer
Mar 01, 2017
Old-Biscuit wrote:
Piece work.......Quality

2 concepts that are at opposite ends of spectrum

"Come On folks. 12 units for today. Get them done by Noon and we ALL can go home!"

Not necessarily. What they are lacking is quality control inspectors.

"Nobody goes home until these 12 units can pass QC! Do it right the first time, guys!"