Chainwright wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Chainwright wrote:
Turtle n Peeps wrote:
There is almost 0 reason to do this. Anytime you go from one energy type (in this case mechanical to electrical) you lose efficiency. Batteries just don't have enough energy density with an RV that weighs 15, 20 30 thousand pounds.
Hmmm, Mercedes just came out with an EV truck (26 tons) and Tesla did too. Daimler owns Mercedes and Frightliner, so I guarantee you CHANGE is on the way. Question is: who'll be the 1st one to adapt.
Lets see how it works out cost wise overall including purchase price. Lets also see how range works out. EV is fine for in city stuff. When you get out on the open road and into the mountains............well..........they suck.
BTW just because someone makes something does not mean it will work out. Remember the Ford atomic car the Nucleon? Or Chryslers turbine car? How did those work out?
All valid points, but Mercedes and Tesla didn't spend thousands of hours and millions of Dollars to come this far and give up. Remember all the people hating on the Prius when it firs came out, now 1/3 of all vehicles sold are EV and or Hybrids.
Driverless Vehicles are still holding their own too despite the "man made" negativity surrounding them, and whenever they are involved in an accident, in the end they find out the it was human error.
Ford Nucleon...LOL. really? you're gonna bring that up. Well why don't you drive around with Atomic weapons grade material in your back seat for 3 months a let us know how that worked out. There's a substantial safety factor which Price and Mpg can't overshadow. Horrible analogy on your part. The Turbine, beautiful car, do you know why it was discontinued? 2 hints: "Gravy train" and politics. The turbine engine was a marvelous invention, infact it was used in other applications like Airplanes, helicopters, tanks, locomotives, busses, ships, where it "survived". Applications with "smaller" audiences, that are less "affected" by the Politics of the Auto Industry.
I don't know where you are getting your facts but they are pretty far off. In fact, way off.
Ford spend 10's of millions of dollars with their atomic car idea. FAIL!
Chrysler spend 10's of (1950's) millions of dollars trying out there turbine engine idea. FAIL!
GM spend 10's of millions of dollars trying out their EV1 electric car idea. FAIL! (And this was when fuel was the most expensive of all time. Not cheap as it is today)
A modern semi or RV will need around 1,500 to 1,600 KWH of battery to be on the open road. At around $200.00/ KWH that's around $300,000 dollars of batteries alone. That's just for the batteries. And like all companies, they will mark them up. So lets round to $350,000 to $400,000 grand for the batteries alone.
Then you need the motors and the frame and the body and all of the other stuff that goes with it.So now you have a $500,000+ electric semi.
I can buy a brand new semi with a diesel engine in it right now for 125,000 to $150,000 grand and hit the road for 11 hours a day making money.
I hope you have a lot of money to buy your electric RV. You will need it!
BTW, the turbine did not fail because of gravy train politics. It failed because of many factors. The biggest was cost. Turbines (like LI batteries) cost a LOT of money to make. Chrysler would have had to sell their car for $20,000 grand + when a super nice car of the day was 5 grand. Other problems were smog, mileage and driveability.
An open road electric semi is about as good of an idea as
the Aero car was.
