Heating season is coming

wa8yxm wrote:
First where I'm at, the first wintger I used 4 space heaters, Last winter 2.5 and this winter remains to be seen (I have one I'll turn on but it's the Mini-Electric Fireplace.. I'll turn on the "Fire" but the heat is on a thermostat)

As for the Heater in the O/P's story. I'm assuming it was either on a table or a tower type (the little cubes I use would not crush a toe)

The following Christmas Story may help.....
a bit over 13 years ago a kitten wandered into my life from the wild. She was 7 weeks old and when it came time to set up the Christmas Tree. Wife and I both agreed that she would find it irresistible. (And so she did) so I got a short tree (4') and a very heavy (Cast iron and marble about 40 lbs) Plant stand..

Sure enough.. She pushed it over (We figured it was her boyfriend, a Big Maine Coon about 2-3 times her size but the 3rd time he had ye old iron clad alibi (He was on the bed where we could see him)

Well I had a swag hook near the tree so I moved it a bit and tied it to the swag hook.

Next hear I found a way to bolt it to the floor so that it could not be turned over.

Well no sooner did I have it set up, Had not even added lights yet when She comes over and tries to push it over (no joy) so she tried again (Same result) so she looks to the big boy as if to say "Get your behind over hear and help". which he does (And researches say cats are stupid, she showed long term memory, problem solving and communications skills) Still no joy though. Tree remined upright. Turns out I'm not so stupid either :).

Love that story.

I once had a barn cat that figure out how to flip up the metal latches on the lid of a trash can the cat food was in. Then pry the lid off of it. I couldn't believe she was doing it until I found scratch marks from her claws on the edge of the lid. A cement block on the lid is the only thing I found that could keep her out.

First where I'm at, the first wintger I used 4 space heaters, Last winter 2.5 and this winter remains to be seen (I have one I'll turn on but it's the Mini-Electric Fireplace.. I'll turn on the "Fire" but the heat is on a thermostat)

As for the Heater in the O/P's story. I'm assuming it was either on a table or a tower type (the little cubes I use would not crush a toe)

The following Christmas Story may help.....
a bit over 13 years ago a kitten wandered into my life from the wild. She was 7 weeks old and when it came time to set up the Christmas Tree. Wife and I both agreed that she would find it irresistible. (And so she did) so I got a short tree (4') and a very heavy (Cast iron and marble about 40 lbs) Plant stand..

Sure enough.. She pushed it over (We figured it was her boyfriend, a Big Maine Coon about 2-3 times her size but the 3rd time he had ye old iron clad alibi (He was on the bed where we could see him)

Well I had a swag hook near the tree so I moved it a bit and tied it to the swag hook.

Next hear I found a way to bolt it to the floor so that it could not be turned over.

Well no sooner did I have it set up, Had not even added lights yet when She comes over and tries to push it over (no joy) so she tried again (Same result) so she looks to the big boy as if to say "Get your behind over hear and help". which he does (And researches say cats are stupid, she showed long term memory, problem solving and communications skills) Still no joy though. Tree remined upright. Turns out I'm not so stupid either :).

I know how to sympathize, my Mom is 96 and still lives by her self, beside me! I thank the Lord for her but your patience can be tried.

That's a very interesting and possibly telling piece of information (or possibly propaganda, depending on one's viewpoint). It's basically saying that RV electrical systems, which are supposed to be conforming to the NEC, are not actually up to the safety levels mandated by the NEC and can't be used to the limits the NEC deems as perfectly acceptable.

12A flowing continually through a properly constructed 15A circuit should not be a safety hazard; it's sized properly. An approved GFCI should likewise be perfectly capable of passing 12A through indefinitely. If things overheat, it's either due to incorrect installation, shoddy electrical components (that should not be sold or used), or failure of connections due to vibration or other causes. If the overcurrent device (the circuit breaker) does not actually protect the wiring system from getting dangerously hot, to the point of possibly causing a fire, it's failing to serve its primary purpose for existing. (There have been a few rather infamous cases where breakers have consistently failed in that regard; probably the best known and most damaging of which were the Federal Pacific Stab-Lok breaker panels. The results are far too often tragic.)

In essence, it seems to me that they're all but claiming that, at least in some cases, RVs are not actually built to code as advertised and as legally required. I fear they may be more correct in that claim than I'd like.

So many things out there to be frightened of. What's more dangerous, an electric heater or one of those propane burning supposedly "vent-less" heaters that are so popular in camping.

I'll take my chances with an electric heater versus any kind of non-vented continuous combustion device, open flame or not, relying on a 5 cent "oxygen" sensor.

Wait a minute, 80 is the new 60.

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beemerphile1 wrote:

DutchmenSport wrote:

...not trying to trivialize ....

No Problem at all, REALLY! If I wasn't so stinking mad at good old Mom, it might be funny!

You do have to admit, give the old gal a Brownie Point for finding a slick way to get one over on everyone! She didn't want the surgery. She found a way to get out of it. I like the idea of giving her a false date!

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DutchmenSport wrote:
...she stumbled into one of those heaters! AND IT WASN'T EVEN PLUGGED IN!

All was well until it fell over and landed on her big toe! Yup!

Well, that was about 4 weeks ago now. It crushed her toe, disintegrated her bone, and then it decayed because the bone was so old and brittle. Then an infection set it, and for the last 3 weeks, we've been trying to get her to surgery to have her toe removed! (Which ain't going well, because she keeps sabotaging the surgery appointments. Had her all ready for surgery twice now, and she creatively stopped taking her normal medications, so all the chemicals in her body are all screwed up. She doesn't want the surgery. Thus, no anesthesia, no surgery!) And she's happy about that, risking a complete bone infection that could spread through her entire body....

There you go, positive proof that owning a space heater causes limb amputations! :B

Hope that isn't offensive, not trying to trivialize what she is going thru.