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Yellermanx
Jun 11, 2013Explorer
BenK wrote:Cummins12V98 wrote:Have watched several videos on the MaxBrake. One from MaxBrake and other
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with those two 'mechanics' pushing MaxBrake.
Both recommend only from the 'T' to the new stub line of the sensor
Makes no matter how high a point it is...the hydraulic line was opened
and the 'proper' way to resolve any possible air in 'that' line is to
bleed it from the MC down to 'both' wheel calipers/cylinders
Why I asked on that other thread where a 'master ASE' brake mechanic
about his consideration to purchase a MaxBrake
Without any prodding...he volunteered that he would 'gravity' bleed
down to the wheels.
Just ask any certified brake mechanic about opening the line at the
MC and if that/those lines would be okay to not bleed them down to
each wheel caliper/cylinder
If one should say nope, then I'll never allow that person to touch
any of my vehicles or friends vehicles
Telling on what they know about hydraulic brake systems. The why of
my comment of 'fastidiousness' of design/engineering.
Also have read here and other forums where folks used their common
sense after installing a MaxBrake. They deemed that the stub line for
the sensor is unsupported. That is referred to as a 'cantilever' and
the potential for vibration fatigue (metal fracture via tiny stress
cracks) is there. Dependent on the harmonics vs the metal tubing's
resonance frequency.
They tied the sensor stub line off with nylon tie wraps. Now they
have solved one of the miscues of MaxBrake engineering & designers.
The other two are not directing to bleed the whole line down to each
wheel and that they only sense one of the MC lines.
There are two lines mandated by law and for good reason. If one line
should become compromised...the other 'most likely' will still be ok
or in better condition.
If the line that gets corrupted for whatever reason with a MC sensed
controller...then the controller will NOT see any braking command.
Therefore no trailer brakes...as that line will have no PSI
Oh yeah...there was another thread here from a member with a MaxBrake
who had false trailer braking.
Could be a bad controller, bad sensor or that there was a bubble in
'that' line that was NOT bled. That bubble will or could provide a
bit of PSI that the sensor saw to initiate trailer braking
Hope he got that resolved by MaxBrake and wonder if they now have
bleeding that whole line as part of their procedure?
Is your whole purpose for being on this forum to dis the Max Brake? Every time it is brought up you jump right in with a bunch of disinformation about it.
Have you ever changed a master cylinder? Guess what? You don't bleed the whole system. You bench bleed it then just bleed it at the lines after installing. BTW I had all the NIASE certifications before it was ASE. I never renewed them because the tests were a joke. However I remained in the business for many years.
Your only concern that MIGHT be valid is tying it off somewhere. Which I did on mine. This is 2013 and they build sensors that can take far more pressure than anyone's truck on this forum can produce.
I didn't even lose enough fluid to add any when I installed mine. If you don't feel comfortable bleeding brakes get a competent "mechanic" per your words. I can tell you that 99.999% of them have no experience with the MB. Just doesn't come up in the average automotive shop. Would only come up if they are somehow involved in trailer towing.
I imagine asking a mechanic a generic question "should I tap into my hydraulic system?" would be answered no not being familiar with the MB.
Suppose there was a pressure failure in the side the controller is tapped in to. You still have the lever on the controller.
You evidently have never owned or towed with a Max Brake so shouldn't comment on it. I had a P3 and was never happy with it, I will leave it at that because I have lots to say about it. That's why I converted to the MB. What a world of difference.
On a scale of 1-10 if you feel the P3 is a ten the the MB is a ten thousand.
99% (just a guess didn't count) of the anti MB comments on here are from one person. Wonder why?
I don't enjoy typing so I'm through.
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