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JIMNLIN
Jun 16, 2013Explorer III
Big Toe,
Your comment;
"What you are saying makes sense, but the highway patrol officers that I have encountered look at stickers" is some what true however I don't know of any jurisdiction that uses the trucks GVWR as the trucks actual gross weight or load on the axles/tires.
Yes they will and have used the steer and drive axle/tire load rating off the door tag. I've hauled commercially for over 11 years straight (a long time ago) and I am the recipient of a ticket for over drive axle/tire load limit on a 3500 DRW hauling gravel in OK and a order to re arrange my load of wheeled equipment on a 36' GN flatdeck to bring the drivers of my F350 DRW within door tag limits from a TXDOT officer.
I believe your from California. This email is by a RV.net member who asked California size and weights folks a question on a trucks GVWR and GCWR. I've snipped it as its long;
Q: “Many of the owners travel over their tow vehicle GVWR and /or
GCWR. Are there any state laws against this? Or does the owner just
take the risk if they wish?”
A: The California Vehicle Code (CVC) does not contain a law that
specifically limits the amount of weight a vehicle may tow based on the
towing vehicle GVWR or GCWR. There are, however, laws that limit the
amount a vehicle may tow based on other criteria.
Section 1085(d) of Title 13 California Code of Regulations prohibits
the loading of tires above the maximum load rating marked on the tire,
or if unmarked the maximum load rating as specified in the applicable
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard, or in a publication furnished to
the public by the tire manufacturer. This would most likely happen in
the case of a pickup truck towing a large fifth wheel travel trailer, as
those types of trailers tend to transfer a larger portion of their
weight to the last axle of the towing unit causing that axle to exceed
the tire load limits.
Section 24002(a) CVC prohibits a vehicle or combination of vehicles
which is in an unsafe condition or which is not safely loaded and which
presents an immediate safety hazard from operating on the highway. This
section provides officers the authority to stop a vehicle or combination
of vehicles that is, in the officer’s opinion, unsafe to operate on
the highway. This section could be used to prohibit a driver from
continuing until the unsafe condition is fixed.
I trust this has adequately answered your questions. Should you desire
any further information, please contact Officer Ron Leimer, of my staff,
at (916) 445-1865.
Sincerely,
S. B. DOWLING, Captain
Commander
Commercial Vehicle Section"
Like I said its snipped for length.
Your comment;
"What you are saying makes sense, but the highway patrol officers that I have encountered look at stickers" is some what true however I don't know of any jurisdiction that uses the trucks GVWR as the trucks actual gross weight or load on the axles/tires.
Yes they will and have used the steer and drive axle/tire load rating off the door tag. I've hauled commercially for over 11 years straight (a long time ago) and I am the recipient of a ticket for over drive axle/tire load limit on a 3500 DRW hauling gravel in OK and a order to re arrange my load of wheeled equipment on a 36' GN flatdeck to bring the drivers of my F350 DRW within door tag limits from a TXDOT officer.
I believe your from California. This email is by a RV.net member who asked California size and weights folks a question on a trucks GVWR and GCWR. I've snipped it as its long;
Q: “Many of the owners travel over their tow vehicle GVWR and /or
GCWR. Are there any state laws against this? Or does the owner just
take the risk if they wish?”
A: The California Vehicle Code (CVC) does not contain a law that
specifically limits the amount of weight a vehicle may tow based on the
towing vehicle GVWR or GCWR. There are, however, laws that limit the
amount a vehicle may tow based on other criteria.
Section 1085(d) of Title 13 California Code of Regulations prohibits
the loading of tires above the maximum load rating marked on the tire,
or if unmarked the maximum load rating as specified in the applicable
Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standard, or in a publication furnished to
the public by the tire manufacturer. This would most likely happen in
the case of a pickup truck towing a large fifth wheel travel trailer, as
those types of trailers tend to transfer a larger portion of their
weight to the last axle of the towing unit causing that axle to exceed
the tire load limits.
Section 24002(a) CVC prohibits a vehicle or combination of vehicles
which is in an unsafe condition or which is not safely loaded and which
presents an immediate safety hazard from operating on the highway. This
section provides officers the authority to stop a vehicle or combination
of vehicles that is, in the officer’s opinion, unsafe to operate on
the highway. This section could be used to prohibit a driver from
continuing until the unsafe condition is fixed.
I trust this has adequately answered your questions. Should you desire
any further information, please contact Officer Ron Leimer, of my staff,
at (916) 445-1865.
Sincerely,
S. B. DOWLING, Captain
Commander
Commercial Vehicle Section"
Like I said its snipped for length.
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