How will the abolishment of Medicare affect your RVing?

spoon059 wrote:


There are a couple good pieces of the ACA, as Trump has pointed out. Insurance until 26 is a good idea for kids trying to get started. Mandating coverage of pre-existing conditions is fair, though it will cost more money.

I quit being a "kid" and got started when I was 17. Time for people to grow up and take personal responsibility. 26 should not be defined as a kid.

Coverage for pre-existing conditions was the only thing that was needed before the entire system was wrecked.

westend wrote:
The problem with implementing health insurance for everyone is that there was no control over provider health care costs.

I would argue that the biggest problem with implementing this program was government oversight and incompetence. We already have a socialized healthcare program in this country, the Veterans Health Administration. We have already seen first hand how the government would run things, with excessive costs, lacking facilities, long lines of waiting, horrible red tape and minimal actual care.

Our veterans, the ones who actually protect us, receive garbage care. Our elected leaders, the ones that are dragging down our future, receive AMAZING care.

The fact that no member of congress is required to settle for this abomination of "healthcare" should be a sign of how terrible it is. The fact that a lot of votes had to be bought with back alley deals and promises should be a sign of how terrible it is. The fact that insurance rates have SKYROCKETED since it went into effect should be a sign of how terrible it is.

There are a couple good pieces of the ACA, as Trump has pointed out. Insurance until 26 is a good idea for kids trying to get started. Mandating coverage of pre-existing conditions is fair, though it will cost more money.

Trump is not going to rubber stamp the Republican mantra, which I believe is one of the reason lots of moderates voted for him. He has no financial ties to big business and he has no serious political ties to the left or the right. Nobody has any clue what to expect from him. He might turn out to be a good president, or he could turn out to be a horrible president. This country could come out better, or worse, in 4 years.

Nobody knows. The OP and his passive aggressive statement's are not helping anyone and just causing unnecessary stress for the weak members of our population that believe anything they hear. The fact of the matter is that our social programs are VERY expensive and not being fully funded by specific contributions because the system is flawed. The government is taking money from other projects to pay for these safety net programs.

I know that we will never get rid of all these social programs, but I can hope that we can at least find a way to make them more financially solvent in their own right.

ktmrfs wrote:


Hint to the OP don't pay attention to fox, ops, excuse me faux news.

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gee, it seems to me that that was the only news organization that didn't have to go slinking away in shame in the middle of the night.
bumpy

Trump made a lot of promises on "hot button" issues. Yeah, folks using the affordable care act don't like their premiums rising. The problem with implementing health insurance for everyone is that there was no control over provider health care costs. Those should have been frozen or a set of expense rules applied before the affordable care act was written into law.

It may be that some folks choose to pay the penalty and do without insurance, paying out of pocket. Hopefully, they don't encounter a large expense that derails their plan.

The Federal Medicare program does limit provider costs. IIRC, should a retiree choose certain advantage plans, their insurance would cover them while on the road. I don't remember the underwriter's of these plans but some have advertised them as having that coverage.

I don't see Medicare going away or the Affordable Care Act. The insurance companies and banks have those customers, why should they kill the goose that lays that egg?

toedtoes wrote:
The sad thing is that while the OP may be worrying over nothing, the OP has been polite and non-aggressive throughout. Can't say that for the other posters.

perhaps it is because we suspected trolling from the start. citing editorial commentary as facts. typical NBCish type of stuff.
bumpy

Naio wrote:


Basically the problem is that Obamacare provides money for Medicare, so if they repeal Obamacare then Medicare will be insolvent. And some people, like Paul Ryan, see this as an opportunity to get rid of Medicare at the same time. It is a socialist program, after all, and some people really hate socialism, even when it is popular.

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excuse me, IIRC Obamacare stole 500 billion/trillion/quadrazillion dollars FROM medicare to "balance the books".
bumpy

Sam Spade wrote:




Your post is pure speculation but I object to it being here at all.

Your RVing tie in is just a front for starting yet another political arguement and this is NOT the place.

Well said - but since this thread continues to be run -AGAINST-
the forum rules, might as well join in.........

The solution to the privatization of Medicare is: "Mexicare".

Move to Mexico - before the wall is built.

Trump claims the wall is to keep Mexicans *out* of the US.

However, walls work two ways!
The real reason is to keep US citizens from leaving!..:(
(Like the former East Germany)

Yes, *you* will have to pay for medical care in Mexico "out of pocket", but the cost of quality health and dental care is far less than in the US.

:C

Thanks, toed.

I can't see how the actual words of the GOP 2016 platform are not 'real facts' about what congress intends to do with Medicare.

I mean, how much realer can you get?

The sad thing is that while the OP may be worrying over nothing, the OP has been polite and non-aggressive throughout. Can't say that for the other posters.

Maybe the country would be in a better state if people would address the supposed misconceptions rather than just attack the person asking the questions. The majority of folks above have condemned the media for being biased and/or fear-mongering, but none of them have actually tried to provide any facts to counter the OP's thoughts. So, how exactly are folks supposed to know "real facts" if no one ever shares them? Where would someone find them if they aren't on the news, in the newspapers, on the internet, etc.? For those saying there is nothing to this, how about linking to some of those "real facts" so others can get educated?

We're tearing this country apart because everyone wants to spout their truth, but no one wants to bother sharing where they got that truth or how others can find it. At least the OP has shared her sources and reasoning behind her thoughts - that's more than those condemning her.

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