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agesilaus
Explorer III
Aug 30, 2014

HR 5204

"To amend the Federal Lands Recreation Enhancement Act to improve
recreation opportunities and increase consistency and accountability in
the collection and expenditure of recreation fees collected on public
lands and forests, and for other purposes."
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Bill text

This bill if it gets passed and signed will affect anyone who uses Federal Lands: BLM, FS ect. I got an email saying that it was going to cause fees to be charged for camping in what the feds called distributed camping: also known as boondocking.

But a read thru didn't show that to me but it is written in lawyerese. It does seem to change Access passes so that any service connected veteran or current military person can get a free access passes.

It seems to restrict fees to areas which are improved with frequent service by park personnel. Otherwise I miss the boondocking impact since that occurs on non-improved land.

But maybe some of you can spot some objectionable items in the bill. I get the feeling this was inspired by the Obama park shutdown last year.

OK I just found this site which is rather alarmist:

Freecampsites
  • you know if you had done a simple search for HR 5204 you would have found an established thread.
    SEARCH IS YOUR FRIEND

    http://forums.motorhomemagazine.com/index.cfm/fuseaction/thread/tid/27917297.cfm

    How about just continuing the discussion on the alredy established thread
  • agesilaus wrote:
    "To amend the Federal Lands Recreation Enhancement Act to improve
    recreation opportunities and increase consistency and accountability in
    the collection and expenditure of recreation fees collected on public
    lands and forests, and for other purposes."
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    Bill text

    This bill if it gets passed and signed will affect anyone who uses Federal Lands: BLM, FS ect. I got an email saying that it was going to cause fees to be charged for camping in what the feds called distributed camping: also known as boondocking.

    But a read thru didn't show that to me but it is written in lawyerese. It does seem to change Access passes so that any service connected veteran or current military person can get a free access passes.

    It seems to restrict fees to areas which are improved with frequent service by park personnel. Otherwise I miss the boondocking impact since that occurs on non-improved land.

    But maybe some of you can spot some objectionable items in the bill. I get the feeling this was inspired by the Obama park shutdown last year.

    OK I just found this site which is rather alarmist:

    Freecampsites


    As I read it, every agency is involved and all sites are referenced

    (f) Day Use Fee.--
    ``(1) Authorized sites for day use fees.--The Secretary may
    charge a day use fee for Federal recreational lands and waters
    under the jurisdiction of the Bureau of Land Management, the
    Bureau of Reclamation, or the Forest Service at the following:
    ``(A) A National Conservation Area.
    ``(B) A National Volcanic Monument.
    ``(C) A destination visitor or interpretive center
    that provides a broad range of interpretative services,
    programs and media.
    ``(D) Sites of concentrated public use that are
    managed primarily for outdoor recreation purposes where
    there has been a substantial Federal investment in
    facilities and services that are necessary to
    accommodate heavy public use, public access to the site
    is provided in such a manner that fees can be
    effectively collected at one or more centralized
    locations, the site has regularly serviced and well
    maintained toilet facilities and contains at least four
    of the following:
    ``(i) Designated developed parking.
    ``(ii) Trash collection.
    ``(iii) Permanent interpretative materials.
    ``(iv) Picnic tables.
    ``(v) Routine presence of agency personnel.
    ``(2) Single fee for multiple sites.--If there are two or
    more sites of concentrated public use located within one-half
    mile of each other, the Secretary may charge a single day use
    fee for the sites and the area between the sites.
    ``(3)[COLOR=] Policy.--The Secretary shall determine, by agency, a
    nationally consistent day use fee policy and rate structure