I expect a 10 cent price increase in diesel

Don't worry, there might be excess and oversupply of it very soon.

California is taxing it out of reach and making it obsolete with high tech renewables.

2oldman wrote:

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
That's the Trump solution, like what he proposed when he found out Seoul is within striking distance of North Korean missiles, move it further south.

Sounds as good as building a wall in Colorado.

The way things are going, there's going to be a lot of moving in the next 100 years.

And what percentage of the Christian Refugees from the South have been driven of farms to the cities because it is getting to hot and dry in the areas they farmed? Then driven out of cities by gangs?

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:

westernrvparkowner wrote:

I suppose we could pack up those 23 million residents of New England and other areas that use fuel oil for heating and move them to the Sunshine state to take the pressure off of Diesel prices, but paying a dime a gallon more sounds like a better alternative.

That's the Trump solution, like what he proposed when he found out Seoul is within striking distance of North Korean missiles, move it further south.

But half seriously, Elon Musk proposed a single site 100x100 miles solar in an empty part of a state like Arizona and it will generate enough power for the entire nation.

He could house the 23 million at Mar A Lago.

Yes here it’s a choice of bottled propane or oil, no piped in natural gas. It’s why we like our new Fujitsu Halcyon Hybrid Inverter producing heat from air down to -5.

10 cent price increase? Honestly where we pay $4.09/gal who would notice.

Dave

2oldman wrote:
Homes are still heated with oil??

Welcome to the Northeast USA. Unfortunately natural gas isn't available in all areas.
Fortunately, we don't allow, or encourage, public sidewalks to be used as toilets. :B

Yosemite Sam1 wrote:
That's the Trump solution, like what he proposed when he found out Seoul is within striking distance of North Korean missiles, move it further south.

Sounds as good as building a wall in Colorado.

The way things are going, there's going to be a lot of moving in the next 100 years.

westernrvparkowner wrote:

I suppose we could pack up those 23 million residents of New England and other areas that use fuel oil for heating and move them to the Sunshine state to take the pressure off of Diesel prices, but paying a dime a gallon more sounds like a better alternative.

That's the Trump solution, like what he proposed when he found out Seoul is within striking distance of North Korean missiles, move it further south.

But half seriously, Elon Musk proposed a single site 100x100 miles solar in an empty part of a state like Arizona and it will generate enough power for the entire nation.

Retired JSO wrote:
Living in Florida, we mostly use our heat pump and on rare occasions, the heat strips. Power company suppliers throughout Florida have started or stopped oil and coal fired boilers in favor of Natural Gas and Solar. We still have some coal and a few nuclear sites operational. In NE Florida, we’ve shuttered local oil and coal plants and are buying power from FPL and Georgia Power supplemented by solar farms and natural gas.

The northeast has a large percentage of homes heated by oil fired furnaces. The census bureau puts that figure at 5.7 million households nationwide. With the average family size of 4 people that means nearly 23 million people rely on fuel oil to heat their homes. January tends to be a bit colder in Maine than it is in Miami. Many of those homes have no access to natural gas lines and many of the homeowners don't have several thousands of dollars just sitting around to make conversions to either propane or electric heat. The sun doesn't exactly shine daily in those areas making solar an unfeasible alternative for primary power.

I suppose we could pack up those 23 million residents of New England and other areas that use fuel oil for heating and move them to the Sunshine state to take the pressure off of Diesel prices, but paying a dime a gallon more sounds like a better alternative.

Living in Florida, we mostly use our heat pump and on rare occasions, the heat strips. Power company suppliers throughout Florida have started or stopped oil and coal fired boilers in favor of Natural Gas and Solar. We still have some coal and a few nuclear sites operational. In NE Florida, we’ve shuttered local oil and coal plants and are buying power from FPL and Georgia Power supplemented by solar farms and natural gas.

Homes are still heated with oil??