Forum Discussion
pnichols wrote:
Most of these type discussions seem to always gravitate towards wrongly opinioned conclusions something like this:
"If vehicles all around you are going over the speed limit and you're not and if there is not a right-hand slow lane or appropriate slow vehicle turnouts ... then you are out of line if you don't speed up to match the rest of the law breakers."
And the bottom-line justification for the above position being in the right is usually "safety".
The above is baloney thinking.
How about more enforcement of speed limits and way stiffer fines for the caught speed law violators? Maybe more (expensive) law enforcement officers and their vehicles is not required. Maybe it's instead way cheaper and better to use license plate reading radar detectors installed all over the country to slow drivers down.
For example, a couple weeks ago we were traveling downhill on a winding mountain road with a 40 MPH speed limit and we were traveling 2-3 MPH faster and still barely safely than this in our motorhome. There were no safe pullouts and no road shoulders. An impatient pickup soon pulled up behind, tailgating us. The pickup (male) driver soon passed us crossing double yellow lines, gave use a certain finger as he passed us, and quickly pulled away obviously going way faster than 40 MPH.
The above baloney stuff goes on all the time. Something is out of whack on this county's roadways. When is it going to end? For Pete's Sack ... IMHO millions of drivers need to slow down and smell either the roses or the fuel fumes!
as the saying goes with law enforcement, "9 you're fine...10 you're mine".DutchmenSport wrote:
The article says no where how fast or slow this offender was going. If the "offender" was traveling the speed limit, then this office is completely wrong.
Nope. Sorry. It is YOU who is completely wrong.
The speed limit is one law.
The "left lane obstruction" law is entirely different.
As it said farther down, lane obstruction can occur regardless of how fast you are going.
And most of the time the "offender" is doing exactly the limit.
Still against the law.
A really LOT of states have passed those laws recently.
Goes along with the signs that say "Slower traffic keep right".- Most of these type discussions seem to always gravitate towards wrongly opinioned conclusions something like this:
"If vehicles all around you are going over the speed limit and you're not and if there is not a right-hand slow lane or appropriate slow vehicle turnouts ... then you are out of line if you don't speed up to match the rest of the law breakers."
And the bottom-line justification for the above position being in the right is usually "safety".
The above is baloney thinking.
How about more enforcement of speed limits and way stiffer fines for the caught speed law violators? Maybe more (expensive) law enforcement officers and their vehicles is not required. Maybe it's instead way cheaper and better to use license plate reading radar detectors installed all over the country to slow drivers down.
For example, a couple weeks ago we were traveling downhill on a winding mountain road with a 40 MPH speed limit and we were traveling 2-3 MPH faster and still barely safely than this in our motorhome. There were no safe pullouts and no road shoulders. An impatient pickup soon pulled up behind, tailgating us. The pickup (male) driver soon passed us crossing double yellow lines, gave use a certain finger as he passed us, and quickly pulled away obviously going way faster than 40 MPH.
The above baloney stuff goes on all the time. Something is out of whack on this county's roadways. When is it going to end? For Pete's Sack ... IMHO millions of drivers need to slow down and smell either the roses or the fuel fumes! valhalla360 wrote:
PS: If everyone is going faster than the speed limit, the speed limit is set incorrectly. The Institute of Traffic Engineers recommended practice is to take the 85th percentile speed and round to the nearest 5mph when setting the speed limit. If 90% of traffic is exceeding the speed limit, it's not the 90% of drivers that are in the wrong, it's the officials setting the speed limit that are wrong.
I've read this many times in the past. If the theory is correct, most Interstate Highway speed limits should be posted at 90 MPH and, 15 MPH school zones would eliminated. :B- I was very greatful when Kansas passed a law requiring you to stay right except for passing (does not apply to cities ). We had a major problem of people driving side by side under the speed limit and you could not pass. Glad they are enforcing the law.
- What is more dangerous, traveling at the speed limit while the cars that want to go faster swerve and tailgate? Or, getting out of the way so the people who will go faster no matter what can do so in safety?
Time and time again I see people doing the speed limit in the left lane beside another vehicle going at the same pace. Simply get out of the way people! DutchmenSport wrote:
The article says no where how fast or slow this offender was going. If the "offender" was traveling the speed limit, then this office is completely wrong. Speed limit is that THAT .... L I M I T!!!! Any lane. Now, I can see if the speed limit is 65 and the offender is traveling 40 in the "fast lane." Then yes, there is justification. But if the "offender is traveling 65, she was not wrong ... EVERYONE ELSE IS. But YOU are probably one of those who think the law doesn't mean anything either! Drive any speed you want as long as you don't get a ticket! WRONG! You are still breaking the law!
The few times I've had to drive I-465 around Indianapolis, I've been caught in a whirwind of traffic. The speed LIMIT is 55, all the way around I-465 (Indianapolis). In order to keep from getting run over, I had to travel 85 in the SLOW lane! I finally said... SCREW THIS and slowed to 55 (in the right lane), and I swear everyone zoomed by me like I was standing still. AND THE L I M I T is 55!
Nope, even if you are going the limit, lane discipline laws say you must be in the right lane unless passing.
If she was hanging out in the left lane and not passing at the speed limit, she was very much a danger on the road. She was creating far more of a danger than drivers simply keeping up with traffic.
PS: If everyone is going faster than the speed limit, the speed limit is set incorrectly. The Institute of Traffic Engineers recommended practice is to take the 85th percentile speed and round to the nearest 5mph when setting the speed limit. If 90% of traffic is exceeding the speed limit, it's not the 90% of drivers that are in the wrong, it's the officials setting the speed limit that are wrong.Old-Biscuit wrote:
'Hero' :H
Trooper did his Job ---enforcing a Law that has been on the books since 2015
Glad lady got caught and citation issued.
But the 'Hero' part is a bit too much
One person said, This guy is my hero.' The media made it a headline. (Imagine that...)- To the poster who said if they were driving the speed limit they were breaking the law. That isn’t exactly true. The left is a passing lane. So if you are in that lane and are not attempting to pass someone, you are breaking the law. For some reason some people believe they are the gatekeeper of expressway speeds.
- The issue wasn't her speed but where she was. Even if she is doing the speed, and technically no one is suppose to be going faster then her (assuming her speedometer is correct), the left lane is for passing.
One exception to this is in the HOV lane. If you're in the HOV lane and doing the speed limit you don't have the option (at least not immediately) to move over and let vehicles behind you pass. The speed limit on the road I travel to work is 55mph. I'll be doing 65 ~ 70 mph and still have people on my tail "pushing" to go even faster.
