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- kohaiExplorerThis type of sales practice described is dishonest, even if it is legal. It's up there with time share salesmen and title loan companies. Good people don't run their businesses this way by preying on people. I say that as a politically conservative businessman. These tactics give businessmen a bad name.
- hotbyteExplorer
midnightsadie wrote:
wow! ,about the same as there service dept a rip off.
You seem to be ok with using their free Internet forum? - Ralph_CramdenExplorer II
hotbyte wrote:
midnightsadie wrote:
wow! ,about the same as there service dept a rip off.
You seem to be ok with using their free Internet forum?
LOL....so what. That comment is about as absurd as you need to expect your RV to break because your towing it through a hurricane in an earthquake. So is the vehicle pulling it.
I am ok using it also, and I despise Camping World. Nowhere is being a Camping World fanboy listed as a forum membership require ment.
They tried some of those same tactic with us a few years back at their Harrisburg PA location. As did Campers Inn, and RV Wholesalers. RV Wholesalers also have different pricing for cash buyers or entering into their provided financing. - tinstartrvlrExplorerWow. I can't believe I wasted 15 minutes of my life watching that video (I couldn't make it to the end).
IMHO that is probably the worst "infomercial" I have ever seen. Seems to me to be nothing more than a dealer trying to drum up business by blasting the competition. I'm no fan of CW and I am not defending them, but, again, WOW.
It sounded more rehearsed than infomercials I've seen on late night TV.
It's sales. It's all in writing. Read it. But the golden rule is, IMHO. don't trust anything the salesman tells you. Read the fine print.
They put out a bunch of BS and hope the buyer can't or doesn't see past it or question it.
"Buyer beware". Apparently that buyer wasn't too aware. Guess his wife was though.
Based on what I saw, I wouldn't give a dime to the Iowa dealer.
Gawd I hate BS. - guidryExplorerDifferent prices for financing and paying cash is illegal and unethical. No getting around that tactic.
- tinstartrvlrExplorer
guidry wrote:
Different prices for financing and paying cash is illegal and unethical. No getting around that tactic.
Unethical absoulutely. Illegal... ? Unless it's deliberately undisclosed, its probably all legal and hidden in the fine print.
The fine print is the holy grail in the world of sales and it certainly isn't for the consumers benefit.
The older I get the more stubborn I get. Next time I buy a truck or some such thing, I will make the salesman or finance guy sit and wait while I read every single word in every single thing they present to me. I have finally learned to absolutely not trust anything they say.
Example. Not long ago I purchased a new truck. About 1700 dollars in rebates available. Decided for the first time ever to take the rebate to use for some accessories. Finance guy says "you don't want to do that; you'll get a 1099 and have to pay taxes on the rebate". Huh? Rather than argue, I just applied it to discount the price of the truck. No big deal at that moment.
But, after some research, I discovered that the IRS doesn't consider rebates income. And the state I bought the truck has no state income tax.
So exactly who would I pay the taxes to? No one. Called the state department of revenue and they also said "huh?"
Just a way for the dealer to put the rebate in their pocket.
Completely sleazy, unethical, and perhaps illegal. But I'll never know for sure.
Probably something in the ultra fine barely visible print that makes it all ok.
Like I said, I hate BS, and the sales world couldn't be any more full of it. - Ralph_CramdenExplorer II
tinstartrvlr wrote:
Wow. I can't believe I wasted 15 minutes of my life watching that video (I couldn't make it to the end).
IMHO that is probably the worst "infomercial" I have ever seen. Seems to me to be nothing more than a dealer trying to drum up business by blasting the competition. I'm no fan of CW and I am not defending them, but, again, WOW.
It sounded more rehearsed than infomercials I've seen on late night TV.
It's sales. It's all in writing. Read it. But the golden rule is, IMHO. don't trust anything the salesman tells you. Read the fine print.
They put out a bunch of BS and hope the buyer can't or doesn't see past it or question it.
"Buyer beware". Apparently that buyer wasn't too aware. Guess his wife was though.
Based on what I saw, I wouldn't give a dime to the Iowa dealer.
Gawd I hate BS.
Take a look at the Google reviews for "Cheyenne Camping Center"
4.5 stars and ownership responds personally to every low star review. Either the issue causing the low review is resolved or the reviewer is called out for posting an inaccurate review.
Then go take a look at Google reviews for Camping World. You have to enter them by location such as "Camping World Harrisburg" or "Camping World Columbus" etc. I just did 7 at random and good luck finding higher than 3.1 stars with very few responses from ownership / management.
Search for either Camping World or Cheyenne Camping Center at any RV related forum and read the results, including here on their sponsored forum LOL.
Granted it's the internet but all the negative reviews and comments directed at Camping World can not be wrong.
I know a few people on other forums who are local to and purchased at Cheyenne Camping Center, and all think highly of them.
I think the owner, by making that video, is doing a great service for the first time or unsuspecting buyer, or the stupid. If he can pick up some sales in the process so be it. When and if I'm in the market again, I would consider them despite being 750 miles away. But given the fact they are an exclusive Forest River dealer, and Forest River will never see a dime from me again, it's probably not in the cards.
Every tactic mentioned in that video was tried at Camping World's Harrisburg PA location on us while I had cash in hand. I walked out, drove an hour south the same day, and handed the cash over to Beckleys Camping Center for the same trailer with no BS and a lower price. - midnightsadieExplorer IInicely put. you said it all.
- RGar974417ExplorerCamping World once had a good reputation. As someone else said,when they started to franchise dealerships their quality went down hill. We bough a unit from Camping World Harrisburg,Pa 2 years ago.They quoted us a price and told us it would be in by the end of August. It didn't come in until the beginning of October and that was after having to contact the manager twice. When it did come in we had an appointment to pick it up at 11am. When we got there,it wasn't ready until 1pm. Then when we went to finance, they told us we owed $29,000 which was more than they quoted us by thousands of dollars.Luckily I saved all the e-mails. So they said they would give it to us at their cost which was supposedly $3,000 over their cost.I was a loyal customer for many years and a lifetime Good Sam member but I won't do business with them anymore.
- LynnmorExplorer
RognBon wrote:
I don't see what the big deal is. It's called capitalism. It's the buyers responsibility to do his homework before hand. If he doesn't like the price or the deal, walk away.
Of course you need to condone unethical business practices.
For those that don't know, here is a definition of ethics:
The branch of philosophy that deals with morality. Ethics is concerned with distinguishing between good and evil in the world, between right and wrong human actions, and between virtuous and nonvirtuous characteristics of people.
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