Iowa RV dealer blasts Camping World tactics

Ralph Cramden wrote:

gmcsmoke wrote:
lol at that video, some high school drama class must be proud of their writing.

quick search on camping world's site found 4,469 new and used campers below $15k and 3,300 new campers below $15k. I guess they do keep some in stock after all. if you're going to bash a company at least try to do it right.

LOL all you want, those are called leaders.
The oldest ad gimmick in the book with the intent to get you on the lot to bend you over in person.

Just like the big picture of the F150 on half a page of your local rag placed by the Ford dealer showing $25K as the price. Note the specific stock number, as it was sold about the time the paper hit the press. They do however have several for $50K they would love to show you.

so this 1996 thor will jump from $9,995 to $25k as soon as I walk on the lot.

Or this 2017 forest river pup up will jump from $7k to $25k as soon as I show up?

get real, cheap hack ad by another dealer to smear camping world. nothing more.

gmcsmoke wrote:
lol at that video, some high school drama class must be proud of their writing.

quick search on camping world's site found 4,469 new and used campers below $15k and 3,300 new campers below $15k. I guess they do keep some in stock after all. if you're going to bash a company at least try to do it right.

LOL all you want, those are called leaders.
The oldest ad gimmick in the book with the intent to get you on the lot to bend you over in person.

Just like the big picture of the F150 on half a page of your local rag placed by the Ford dealer showing $25K as the price. Note the specific stock number, as it was sold about the time the paper hit the press. They do however have several for $50K they would love to show you.

I watched the video over the course of a few sittings. I couldn't care less about the quality and production of the video, nor am I more or less inclined to purchase an RV at either of the places mentioned, but the point of the video is well understood and has value. Whether its predatory or fraud or illegal in any way, never in the history of mankind has a civil government been able to legislate morality. Therefore, you need videos and testimony like this for the awareness of a topic that often times is misunderstood. Yes, "buyer beware" but in the myriad of legal lingo involved in lending deals, the buyer needs to know what to be aware of.

I have personally entered into similar lending contracts before, but was fully aware of the details. I don't recall if the video adequately described the contract, but I believe the essence is that you are agreeing to pay the full purchase price plus the interest over the course of the loan. In other words, its a type of early payoff penalty. I wouldn't enter into a long term contract like this, but if the term was short and the rate was better, then it might be worth the risk...especially if you have zero intent to pay it off early. I think such loans are better for certain business purchases rather than personal, long term hobby purchases. I've always looked at the 15 year RV loan program as something that would outlive the useful life of the unit itself.

In many businesses, there are "salespeople", and there's "Closers". Closers are the ones who use the high-pressure tactics to bamboozle you into signing something you might regret later - but don't have the courage to confront the closer again. I'm sure CW uses Closers, as do other dealers (or they'll import some for special sales).

As others have said - be well-prepared; don't be afraid to take time to mull things over or even think about for a few days. Always ask for the out-the-door price. And if you feel like you're being pressured, simply leave - it's perfectly fine to say "I'm not comfortable with the way this purchase is going".

Ages ago, I was being pressured by a radio salesman. He was offering me something that I had NO interest in, but he was trying every trick in the book. Finally, I burst out laughing, and said "You know, Mr X - I've read all those same selling-techniques books. I recognize what you are doing, but I can assure you that my "no" means "no" and pressuring me won't change my mind"

Kansas Climber wrote:
...Just happens that this dealer in Iowa is getting their teeth kicked in by a Camping World store in Davenport. Can't compete then what do I do....fake news?

Do you have any sort of evidence for that? Or just an assumption?

This is the same **** that countless car dealers try to pull on unsuspecting customers. Add on a bunch of overpriced "must have" ****, steer the customer to financing from the dealer's preferred institution, and feather the contract with inflated document charges and other useless, pointless additions that enhance the bottom line and the salesman's commission. And of course there's the old standby, the bait and switch. It's unethical at the very least, and some of these tactics are outright fraud.

The fact that the vid is still up on YouTube speaks volumes.

gmcsmoke wrote:
lol at that video, some high school drama class must be proud of their writing.

quick search on camping world's site found 4,469 new and used campers below $15k and 3,300 new campers below $15k. I guess they do keep some in stock after all. if you're going to bash a company at least try to do it right.

Nobody said they don't advertise trailers at $15K.

Problem is, and one of the points of the video was you cannot actually purchase that $15K trailer. This guy tried that and it suddenly became $26K. Watch the video.

colliehauler wrote:
Did not watch the video which dealer in Iowa was it?

I would recommend you watch the video to understand the context of what's being said.

lol at that video, some high school drama class must be proud of their writing.

quick search on camping world's site found 4,469 new and used campers below $15k and 3,300 new campers below $15k. I guess they do keep some in stock after all. if you're going to bash a company at least try to do it right.

Did not watch the video which dealer in Iowa was it?