K & N filters

As a tech that worked at a Dodge dealer and now private shop. I have never seen anything damaged by a K&N! It does sound like some don't know the product very well! If it was junk i wouldn't be using them! And a map sensor cannot be ruined by a K&N.

Ron3rd wrote:
The only thing I see bashed more than K&N Filters is Consumer Reports.

And KOA! :E

Me Again wrote:

banjo wrote:
Interesting article.....

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Thank you banjo! Lets see what the K&N cheer leaders have to say about this testing.

Another interesting test would be to run on a dyno and see the HP and Torque differences.

Chris

Very Good job banjo...this unbiased PROOF of most after market air filters HAS been around, but scoffed at by those who swear by after market filters...now there are other test out there prepaired by K&N, and other after market cold air intake manufacturers, but what would one expect them to say about their own product:S

dodge guy wrote:
As a tech that worked at a Dodge dealer and now private shop. I have never seen anything damaged by a K&N! It does sound like some don't know the product very well! If it was junk i wouldn't be using them! And a map sensor cannot be ruined by a K&N.

I had a K&N before I did much research on it, put it on an 03' Chevy 2500HD D/A and it eventually clogged up my MAF sensor...no reason to lie...I removed it, cleaned the MAF, and put OEM filter back in...I was like most in here and SWORE by them until I did the research and saw what it did in around my intake. I didn't have to be a tech that worked at any dealership....Just a back yard mechanic....

Amazing that you're a tech and don't know about the research done on these very expensive aftermarket filters and see that they don't allow the engine to breathe any better and that they don't filtrate particulates as well as OEM filters:h Sounds like some know more about them then what YOU give us credit for.:)

Ron3rd wrote:
The only thing I see bashed more than K&N Filters is Consumer Reports.

Wow, you don't read much on here then...pick Ram, Ford and GM/Chevy, in whatever order you want, often see these take a bashing, along with Toyota......different brands of RV's..(pick just about any), oh, China made tires...

yeah, believe all the above get bashed FAR more than the over rated K&N filters.....I will agree with you on CR...it's a rag of a magazine to be sure:)

Well I said they would be along with their "great product, never had a problem" lines. OP made his educated decision to not get one! But this will run on and on!

I have one in the attic for a 1998.5 to 2002 Dodge Diesel if anyone wants it! Also have a BHAF with outer wear cover if anyone wants that, as it was no noisy.


Chris

Me Again wrote:

banjo wrote:
Interesting article.....

htmlhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/debunking-the-k-n-myth-why-oem-is-better-t180100.html

Thank you banjo! Lets see what the K&N cheer leaders have to say about this testing.

Another interesting test would be to run on a dyno and see the HP and Torque differences.

Chris

Done it. The K&N was worth consistent, repeatable power. (It was also worth a 100 degree EGT drop on both my diesels.)

Per actual lab analysis, it filters fine.

Ozlander wrote:

AO_hitech wrote:
I've never understood why, especially on this forum, that when someone asks where to get something so many chime in with "you don't want that". :E

In this case, Because it's true.

I am begining to believe that I will stick with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", and go with what it has.

I had one on my 2009 VW Jetta that we bought used. I didn't know anything about them at the time so I took it out and was getting ready to clean it. I noticed that I could literally see through the filter....clearly.... And it had at least 20k miles on it at the time.

My brain started to ask questions like.... If light can easily pass through this filter(I held the filter up and I could see stars in the sky) ... What can small particles of dirt do?

Never mind that the filter housing was filthy downstream from the filter... I concluded that this is hype and I discarded the filter and replaced it with a paper filter.

What gain do I have by owning a filter that makes more work for me, Allows more dirt in to my motor, and does nothing positive for my vehicle?

Thanks,

Jeremiah

My motorhome V-10 came with the Banks K&N type filter and housing, would I have bought one and installed it, probably not but I also don't tend to remove it either, as to being a dirt sucker they are not, to many people do not know how to use the K&N type filters, mine is clean in the tube after the filter, you must not over oil them, also let the oil dry before installing, also check it twice a year, also make sure your housing is tight, no leaks and all clips are on correctly, also clean and reoil 1 x per year not 25,000 to 50,000 miles as they claim..

Both my wifes Nissan and my daughters car after they have the oil change and filter change the mechanics never get the housing back on correct and it allows in dirt past the filter, seen this so many times, its usually not the filters fault for allowing dirt in, its usually the installer or owner..