K & N filters

Ozlander wrote:

AO_hitech wrote:
I've never understood why, especially on this forum, that when someone asks where to get something so many chime in with "you don't want that". :E

In this case, Because it's true.

I am begining to believe that I will stick with "if it ain't broke, don't fix it", and go with what it has.

Me Again wrote:

banjo wrote:
Interesting article.....

htmlhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/debunking-the-k-n-myth-why-oem-is-better-t180100.html

Thank you banjo! Lets see what the K&N cheer leaders have to say about this testing.

Another interesting test would be to run on a dyno and see the HP and Torque differences.

Chris

Done it. The K&N was worth consistent, repeatable power. (It was also worth a 100 degree EGT drop on both my diesels.)

Per actual lab analysis, it filters fine.

Well I said they would be along with their "great product, never had a problem" lines. OP made his educated decision to not get one! But this will run on and on!

I have one in the attic for a 1998.5 to 2002 Dodge Diesel if anyone wants it! Also have a BHAF with outer wear cover if anyone wants that, as it was no noisy.


Chris

Ron3rd wrote:
The only thing I see bashed more than K&N Filters is Consumer Reports.

Wow, you don't read much on here then...pick Ram, Ford and GM/Chevy, in whatever order you want, often see these take a bashing, along with Toyota......different brands of RV's..(pick just about any), oh, China made tires...

yeah, believe all the above get bashed FAR more than the over rated K&N filters.....I will agree with you on CR...it's a rag of a magazine to be sure:)

dodge guy wrote:
As a tech that worked at a Dodge dealer and now private shop. I have never seen anything damaged by a K&N! It does sound like some don't know the product very well! If it was junk i wouldn't be using them! And a map sensor cannot be ruined by a K&N.

I had a K&N before I did much research on it, put it on an 03' Chevy 2500HD D/A and it eventually clogged up my MAF sensor...no reason to lie...I removed it, cleaned the MAF, and put OEM filter back in...I was like most in here and SWORE by them until I did the research and saw what it did in around my intake. I didn't have to be a tech that worked at any dealership....Just a back yard mechanic....

Amazing that you're a tech and don't know about the research done on these very expensive aftermarket filters and see that they don't allow the engine to breathe any better and that they don't filtrate particulates as well as OEM filters:h Sounds like some know more about them then what YOU give us credit for.:)

Me Again wrote:

banjo wrote:
Interesting article.....

htmlhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/debunking-the-k-n-myth-why-oem-is-better-t180100.html

Thank you banjo! Lets see what the K&N cheer leaders have to say about this testing.

Another interesting test would be to run on a dyno and see the HP and Torque differences.

Chris

Very Good job banjo...this unbiased PROOF of most after market air filters HAS been around, but scoffed at by those who swear by after market filters...now there are other test out there prepaired by K&N, and other after market cold air intake manufacturers, but what would one expect them to say about their own product:S

Ron3rd wrote:
The only thing I see bashed more than K&N Filters is Consumer Reports.

And KOA! :E

As a tech that worked at a Dodge dealer and now private shop. I have never seen anything damaged by a K&N! It does sound like some don't know the product very well! If it was junk i wouldn't be using them! And a map sensor cannot be ruined by a K&N.

The only thing I see bashed more than K&N Filters is Consumer Reports.

Me Again wrote:

DE88ROX wrote:
Been thinking about getting a K&N filter for the truck. aside from not having to buy filters all the time, is it a good investment in your TV?

The quick answer is NO! It is a very bad investment for a modern TV! There will be those that come on here claiming no problems etc! No one uses them OEM on vehicles as they let in to much dirt and the oil can foul sensors.

This post will soon be followed by someone saying I do not know what I am talking about!!

Dodge sold me a K&N for my RAM back in 2001 and a year later withdrew their support of using that type of filter. These older engines have both a MAP sensor and IAT sensor that can be damaged by oil. New engines have even more sensors.

The Cummins diesels in my boat have Walker Airsep's which use K&N filters, so I know I bit about servicing them. Each engine has both a large intake filter and I smaller breather filter that have to be cleaned and re-oiled. This requires using K&N's special cleaner and oil! In marine use dust is not an issue and these are old mechanical engines without sensors that can be fouled.

And any time a filter requires to get a little dirty to increase its filtering ability, we should run the other direction. You have to find testing done by someone besides K&N to get a clean(ops clear) picture of the issues.

So do not do it!

Chris

Thanks. I think ill save my money.