Lordstown/Camping world to make Electric EV's and class E MH

wanderingaimlessly wrote:
It will be fun to watch, in five years, how many green clowns have to be towed out of whatever predicament they got themselves into by an old guy with an Internal Combustion Engine vehicle.

That’s not happening now. What makes you think it will happen in five years.

agesilaus wrote:

A key difference is your average UPS truck spends most of it's time at relatively low speeds with lots of stop and go...that's great for electric where regenerative braking can cancel out the extra power used in acceleration and at low speed, wind resistance is minimal. At freeway speeds, wind resistance is a primary control 95% of the time.

The same with that Rivan p/u, great for local use not so great cross country. I've read some accounts by a couple of Tesla drivers who tried to cross the country. They had a heck of a time finding charging stations, one of them flatlined the battery trying to find one. And that seemly calls for a tow to the dealer for Teslas to recover from a dead battery.
Also more than half the electric vehicles are now located in Cali and a large chunk of the others are in OR and WA. Even there they make up less than 2% of the total vehicles. Does not sound like a revolution to me.

I’ll call the Tesla story BS. There is no such a thing as looking for or trying to find a Supercharger. The car knows where they are and can tell you how far and the route to any of them. All you have to do is ask the car...and I mean literally ask the car.

Crossing the country, be it Canada, the US or Europe is not a challenge.

Rivian may be different. I don’t know.

Here is another source of press release type material:

https://www.greencarreports.com/news/1130664_camping-world-lordstown-endurance-electric-rv-project

CW might be the kiss of death, given their track record.

It will be fun to watch, in five years, how many green clowns have to be towed out of whatever predicament they got themselves into by an old guy with an Internal Combustion Engine vehicle.

A key difference is your average UPS truck spends most of it's time at relatively low speeds with lots of stop and go...that's great for electric where regenerative braking can cancel out the extra power used in acceleration and at low speed, wind resistance is minimal. At freeway speeds, wind resistance is a primary control 95% of the time.

The same with that Rivan p/u, great for local use not so great cross country. I've read some accounts by a couple of Tesla drivers who tried to cross the country. They had a heck of a time finding charging stations, one of them flatlined the battery trying to find one. And that seemly calls for a tow to the dealer for Teslas to recover from a dead battery.
Also more than half the electric vehicles are now located in Cali and a large chunk of the others are in OR and WA. Even there they make up less than 2% of the total vehicles. Does not sound like a revolution to me.

Camp grounds will come on board. Those who don’t will just fade away. Just like hotels adapting to new client expectations. Exercise rooms, continental breakfast, wifi, Pretty much every new hotel has destination chargers where we are. And they get used. Many start with just one and add as demand requires. I suspect campgrounds will do the same.

As they develop, some of the chassis being developed for delivery trucks could be repurposed as a small Class C/B+ but right now most of those have a pretty limited range at freeway speeds.

A key difference is your average UPS truck spends most of it's time at relatively low speeds with lots of stop and go...that's great for electric where regenerative braking can cancel out the extra power used in acceleration and at low speed, wind resistance is minimal. At freeway speeds, wind resistance is a primary control 95% of the time.

Not only is boondocking an issue a large percentage of RV parks are pushing their electric system to the limit already (particularly on busy summer weekends when everyone is running the air/con).

Chassis prices will have to come down and charging options expand before this is a viable option. That may come as current ICE chassis are not really developed for RVs. RVs just take advantage of them.

Age, with all the research going into batteries, it’s coming. But I do agree we are a ways off from boondocking with electric RVs.

time2roll wrote:
CCS is an open format for charging any EV equipped with same connector and willing to pay the fee.
Lordstown I believe is still working to produce any vehicle. CW does not exactly have the best reputation.
Best of luck to them but no real excitement from me.

Yah. I should have been clearer. My point with CCS is that RV’s will potentially have big batteries and the 350 KW stations could be a big asset for them if they make the packs capable of accepting that kind of charge rate. I think right now the only manufacture capable of that speed is the Porsche Taycan.

CCS is an open format for charging any EV equipped with same connector and willing to pay the fee.
Lordstown I believe is still working to produce any vehicle. CW does not exactly have the best reputation.
Best of luck to them but no real excitement from me.