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Ohio_Engineer
May 09, 2018Explorer
JBarca wrote:
Time for new tires. Trying to find someone in the same weight range or that has been running their chosen brands close in the weight range listed below.
Currently using. BFG Commercial TA's LT225/75R16 LR E. 2,680# @ 80 psi. Now 5 1/2 years old.
Axles: 5,000# springs are the limiting factor.
Trailer GVWR: 10,000# Camper loaded: 9,920# GVW
Largest loaded axle: 4,400# aligned with 5,360# of tires/axle
Needs: I need/want to be able to run winter (below freezing) and summer temperatures on the same tires.
I have had 2 failures this year. This might be from 2 reasons:
1. It is not beyond impossible I ran into a patch potholes. The tires could have been damaged internally and manifested itself to the recent failures.
2. These current failed tires were also potentially made in the same BFG plant they had the recall on the next size from mine during 2012 when I put mine on. This may or may not have to do with the recent failures. BFG Recall
Mine look like this video. Tire shop showing recalled tires
I have a TPM system (Truck Systems TST) and the running pressures at 60 mph were 90psi and 89F stem temperatures when the failures occurred.
I'm not blaming the tires at this point, I want the best LT option within reason to replace them with.
New replacement choices I have found.
Michelin XPS Ribs: They are only a summer tire
Bridgestone Duravis R250: They are only a summer tire.
The above both have been reported to give excellent service however I need all season.
Bridgestone Duravis R238: Duravis R238 These appear to be an option as they are all season and similar tread as the R250's
Firestone Transforce HT: These appear to be an option, maybe not as heavy duty as the Duravis R238's Transforce HT
BFG Commercial TA 2: An upgraded version with "Cool Wedge shoulder insert" from what I already have. BFG Commercial TA 2's
BFG has had now 2 recalls in the Commercial TA's including the new 2 version. I linked 2012 one above and here is the 2015 recall. https://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/safety-recall.page
With that, I'm not real high on another set of BFG Commercial TA's.
Anyone with the same size, running all season tires? and other brands in the same or slightly higher weight range? Again need all season options.
I already went through the ST to LT upgrade. See here for wheel weights etc. ST225/75R15 to LT225/75R16 Conversion
Thanks
John
John, The BS R250 is a "Commercial" grade steel body tire. As such I would expect it to be more durable than a more basic "consumer" grade tire. I have heard good things about the 250 from RV owners.
The BS R238 is a "newer" design (unusual for BS to go down in model number) It may have some design improvements in it over the 250 but I do not have access to the actual specification so just a reasonable guess.
I agree with the others about questioning the need for a serious All-Season tire. They generally have a deeper tread which might generate more heat.
Your pictures are definitely a Belt/Tread separation. Surprised your "free spin" inspection didn't allow you to identify the potential for problems before the tire came apart. IMO this is unusual.
Are your tire loads still about the same as in 2012? Still running 80 psi cold? Have you confirmed gauge accuracy? If +/- 2 psi you are good. In my blog I did a TPM accuracy test a few weeks ago you may want to review but IMO the TPM sensors were in acceptable range.
While TPM are really designed just to warn of pressure loss they can be used to confirm CIP too as long as you know the accuracy of your sensors.
Roger Marble, Tire Desigh Engineer (Ret)
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