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Medford Oregon Parking Ban

Every year or two a local community, sometimes at the urging of a campground owner takes issue with RVers overnighting at Wal-Mart. I was reading Nick Russell's Gypsy Journal blog and he reported Med...

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I was reading Nick Russell's Gypsy Journal blog and he reported Medford, Oregon is enforcing a parking ban at their local Wal-Mart. Nick has added Medford on his RV Unfriendly Cities list. He posted the City Manager's email for anyone that wanted to contact them. CMO@cityofmedford.org You may recall a few years ago Lake City, Florida also banned RV parking and a massive amount of emails and press coverage resulted in a change. I emailed and received a reply that because of undesireables, and acts of lawlessness, including shop lifting, that Medford at the urging of the Wal-Mart manager enacted the parking ban. 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westernrvparkowner wrote:
down home wrote:
There are some Retired and other RVers that do stay a night at a Wal Mart or Truck Stops. They have nice RVs but it helps to balance their books. Guess what: they spend money for groceries, etc and even fuel at some, of them.
No way we can address those who have been kicked out of their jobs and homes etc and now use their RV, only thing left, to live. Very unfortunate. Remember the great things free trade has done.
When we stop at a WalMart we usually end up spending several hundred dollars, on supplies, even fuel for coach and towed, at the few we can get in.
I spend an hour or two or three at the coach while she shops. Like at Deming New Mexico. One acceptable campground up the road but don't believe the rates etc. The sign remained unchanged for years.
Didn't know it and were too tired, at that point, so we, with the blessing of security, and directed, to one area, of lot, set up for the night. Unhooked towed and went to find a place to eat. Turned out Border Patrol and Military ate there.Mexican Food was blech and desert simply terrible but they had Mexican Coca Colas, a memorable taste but still half flat.Got the oil changed from were Freighliner,in Tn overfilled our coach by thirty quarts,and ruined our dipstick and it greased the rear of the Mh and probably the road from there through Miss, La, Tx and New Mexico and Az.
There have been several planned stops for supplies and to eat someone else's food ruined when we turned toward a Wal Mart and a big piece of pipe hanging over the entrance, in Jackson, Tn, in La and some others. They didn't get the few hundred dollars we probably would have spent. The Cities didn't get our sales taxes either or fuel sales, or restaurant revenues either. Why would I seek out a run down RV park in these places that thing RVers should be forced to provide them a retirement. That attitude will come through at their Parks as they generally too cheap to hire good people and or run it themselves.They are miserabl people and make others miserable.
What in the heck are you talking about? Did Walmart or an RV park suddenly buy Freightliner? If not, what does that have to do with anything in this thread? How can you overfill the oil pan by 30 quarts? Why would that ruin the dipstick? Why is your dinner ruined if you can't stop at Walmart, does their greeter prepare your meals? If you can't stop at Walmart, you don't buy fuel, food or supplies? Would the rundown, too cheap to hire good people RV parks not make you and others miserable if they served Mexican Coca Colas?
Yes, some of what you pay me in site fees does go to my retirement. What you did for a living provided you with a retirement, why shouldn't what I do for a living provide the same?

It is just, a note in the story, or reason we ended up there not part of it and could have been left out.
Earn the business you get, don't expect government, to legislate it.
We always stay at RV Parks except this instance and one other at a Flyin J years ago, if it matters.
I once reported on an incident of a Campground Owner's trying to get another campground many miles away to get some law passed to force RVers that were supposedly staying at Truck Stops somewhere and a Walmart somewhere, in FT Smith, an hour away to stay at his run down, screw in the fifty amp plug and so on campground. He bought a Campground in good shape and tried to improve profitability, or cut corers and lost business.","body@stringLength":"3593","rawBody":"
westernrvparkowner wrote:
down home wrote:
There are some Retired and other RVers that do stay a night at a Wal Mart or Truck Stops. They have nice RVs but it helps to balance their books. Guess what: they spend money for groceries, etc and even fuel at some, of them.
No way we can address those who have been kicked out of their jobs and homes etc and now use their RV, only thing left, to live. Very unfortunate. Remember the great things free trade has done.
When we stop at a WalMart we usually end up spending several hundred dollars, on supplies, even fuel for coach and towed, at the few we can get in.
I spend an hour or two or three at the coach while she shops. Like at Deming New Mexico. One acceptable campground up the road but don't believe the rates etc. The sign remained unchanged for years.
Didn't know it and were too tired, at that point, so we, with the blessing of security, and directed, to one area, of lot, set up for the night. Unhooked towed and went to find a place to eat. Turned out Border Patrol and Military ate there.Mexican Food was blech and desert simply terrible but they had Mexican Coca Colas, a memorable taste but still half flat.Got the oil changed from were Freighliner,in Tn overfilled our coach by thirty quarts,and ruined our dipstick and it greased the rear of the Mh and probably the road from there through Miss, La, Tx and New Mexico and Az.
There have been several planned stops for supplies and to eat someone else's food ruined when we turned toward a Wal Mart and a big piece of pipe hanging over the entrance, in Jackson, Tn, in La and some others. They didn't get the few hundred dollars we probably would have spent. The Cities didn't get our sales taxes either or fuel sales, or restaurant revenues either. Why would I seek out a run down RV park in these places that thing RVers should be forced to provide them a retirement. That attitude will come through at their Parks as they generally too cheap to hire good people and or run it themselves.They are miserabl people and make others miserable.
What in the heck are you talking about? Did Walmart or an RV park suddenly buy Freightliner? If not, what does that have to do with anything in this thread? How can you overfill the oil pan by 30 quarts? Why would that ruin the dipstick? Why is your dinner ruined if you can't stop at Walmart, does their greeter prepare your meals? If you can't stop at Walmart, you don't buy fuel, food or supplies? Would the rundown, too cheap to hire good people RV parks not make you and others miserable if they served Mexican Coca Colas?
Yes, some of what you pay me in site fees does go to my retirement. What you did for a living provided you with a retirement, why shouldn't what I do for a living provide the same?

It is just, a note in the story, or reason we ended up there not part of it and could have been left out.
Earn the business you get, don't expect government, to legislate it.
We always stay at RV Parks except this instance and one other at a Flyin J years ago, if it matters.
I once reported on an incident of a Campground Owner's trying to get another campground many miles away to get some law passed to force RVers that were supposedly staying at Truck Stops somewhere and a Walmart somewhere, in FT Smith, an hour away to stay at his run down, screw in the fifty amp plug and so on campground. 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