Microsoft Streets and Trips coming to end of life

thgoodman wrote:

travelnutz wrote:
Delorme Street Atlas is head and shoulders above Microsoft Streets and Trips. We have both and upgrade at each new release but seldom use the Microsoft Streets. Only get each new release of it because my wife likes it for some things but I don't like it at all. We have had every version of Delorme Street Atlas and also Topo since the first back in the 1990's. So easy to use and gives so much more local info and detail than Microsoft Streets. Now I will save money since I'll only have to upgrade the Delorme.

Does the Delorme have a GPS feature that works going down the road like S&T without internet access. If I have to replace S&T I would like something that functions on a PC because of the large display but I don't have reliable internet access going down the road. S&T will run stand alone but still has the GPS functional.

Here is the one I use: DELORME

The Plus has business and residential phone numbers.

We've used Delorme Xmap for many years. Changed laptops a couple of years ago and bought Delorme Topo North American. Love Topo.

I also have Microsoft S&T, it's seldom used, just seems unintuitive and clunky. But I learned Delorme's menuing system first, and never really spent much time with S&T.

But Delorme is our go to resource for planning and routing.

travelnutz wrote:
Delorme Street Atlas is head and shoulders above Microsoft Streets and Trips. We have both and upgrade at each new release but seldom use the Microsoft Streets. Only get each new release of it because my wife likes it for some things but I don't like it at all. We have had every version of Delorme Street Atlas and also Topo since the first back in the 1990's. So easy to use and gives so much more local info and detail than Microsoft Streets. Now I will save money since I'll only have to upgrade the Delorme.

I also have used Delorme for decades and it is the best on the market for my dollar. Of course I have used many others and I find that the RVN D 7720 is the only portable GPS worth its price.

2gypsies wrote:
... Delorme Street Atlas... It's excellent for preplanning a trip to go the way YOU want to go by inserting vias. We don't do interstates if possible and using the secondary roads to explore the country is excellent. You can preplan the trip without internet...

Thank you. That is what I want. I am a solo traveler so there is no one else manning the laptop. I normally use a legal pad with my directions written on it. On one of my last trips, the legal pad blew down onto the floor (I like to travel with the windows open). My goddaughter suggested I get a mapping program and put it on a non-slip pad. She said some of these talk. Does Street Atlas talk?

What good is an online product when there is no phone service?

Try getting online when driving the wilds of BC, AB or AK.

Oh well, S&Ts has served us well since 2007. Guess it is time to get something else.

IMO Street Atlas is a great planner. That's what I use and have used for 10 years. I can't imagine using a cell phone or even a tablet for a trip planner.

I didn't think it was much of a trip planner, especially when they quit using mph in the options and went to above and below average. What ever that was.
I have InRoute, a free app that works good enough for trip planning. Ever have a trip go exactly according to plan anyway?
iExit works good for services at the exits and it's also free.

We've used Delorme Street Atlas for over 20 years. It's excellent for preplanning a trip to go the way YOU want to go by inserting vias. We don't do interstates if possible and using the secondary roads to explore the country is excellent. You can preplan the trip without internet. Your route can then be transferred to a regular GPS for a heads-up for the driver. If the passenger wants a more detailed screen (like we do), the passenger follows along using a laptop and the Delorme GPS pod attached. There is no internet involved.

A regular GPS shows no detail. Delorme shows it all.

I was going to buy MS Streets & Trips plus GPS to run on my Win 8.1 laptop (I can't see those tiny screens and drive at the same time). Now I'm not so sure. I've seen a lot of bad reviews on the Street Atlas. Now I don't know what I should buy! I like to run on the US highways and primary roads not the interstates. I also like to find out-of-the-way campgrounds and wide spots next to rivers and streams to stay next to. So what would be a good non-wifi dependant mapping program to get?

Yes, we have 2 little antenna pods (one for each tow vehicle) that have magnetic bottoms that adhere the about 2" X 2" yellow pod to the metal hood or fender. Looks like a Sirius Radio black antenna but is yellow. Extremely accurate. Even shows whether you are close to the centerline of a road or near the outside edge. Also give your speed to 1/100th of a mph if you want. Delorme is the mapping people who did and do the US Military mappings etc. Had mobile Delorme GPS vehicle imaging on our laptops since about 2001 or 2002.