Millennials and RVs

shelbyfv wrote:
I don't think this is correct, maybe you could post your math.

I understand why you would ask, but it would result in my revealing my financial history and status which is no ones business. The math is correct, but everyone else's will be different. Often vastly different. fwiw, I have advanced degrees and worked a long time + was compensated accordingly.

For me, SS/Medicare/etc was/is theft. For people that don't/wont work, its found money.

twodownzero wrote:

colliehauler wrote:

twodownzero wrote:
Born 1983. Watched my generation fight the longest wars in American history. Served myself as well. Not sure if I'm a millennial or not, but it sure is easy to criticize my generation's struggle after the boomers clawed their way to the top with our money ($20 Trillion of it) and then pulled the ladder up on their way to retirement.

That said, I love camping, don't mind dumping my black tank, and I do all of my own car maintenance; been working on cars since I was 12 years old even though I wear a suit to work now.

Dude you weren't around when I earned my money. Despite the fact I don't have kids 50 percent of my KS tax money went towards education of your generation. I put in many 100 hr weeks during my career scrimped and saved for my retirement always living below my means. If you want to see the problem you better look in the mirror on who you elected that added to that dept. So far I've paid taxes for 40 years and not received one penny back. It's up to people like you and future generations to vote for people who do not add to that dept and try to reduce it, choose wisely!

My generation hasn't elected anybody. Young people don't vote. Old people are who decide elections. Sadly I think we're going the wrong way, continuing to elect people who will borrow and spend away the income of future generations for political gain. As I age, I wonder where the tipping point is of where I should just become selfish and stop caring; we're already 20 trillion in the hole with no end to that in sight and no incentive to fix it. Of course I talk to my friends and neighbors and all of you guys about it and have for at least a decade, but if nobody will listen, the problem will just continue.

I don't have kids either and I continue to pay taxes to support other people's offspring. My state is dead last in education as well.

I believe it's about 23 trillion now. I hope you don't stop caring. I think you are intelligent and get it with your statement (( Sadly I think we're going the wrong way, continuing to elect people who borrow and spend the income of future generations for political gain)). Sadly not enough people realize this. Nothing the government provides is free. To lump all boomers or millennials into a category is wrong.

colliehauler wrote:

twodownzero wrote:
Born 1983. Watched my generation fight the longest wars in American history. Served myself as well. Not sure if I'm a millennial or not, but it sure is easy to criticize my generation's struggle after the boomers clawed their way to the top with our money ($20 Trillion of it) and then pulled the ladder up on their way to retirement.

That said, I love camping, don't mind dumping my black tank, and I do all of my own car maintenance; been working on cars since I was 12 years old even though I wear a suit to work now.

Dude you weren't around when I earned my money. Despite the fact I don't have kids 50 percent of my KS tax money went towards education of your generation. I put in many 100 hr weeks during my career scrimped and saved for my retirement always living below my means. If you want to see the problem you better look in the mirror on who you elected that added to that dept. So far I've paid taxes for 40 years and not received one penny back. It's up to people like you and future generations to vote for people who do not add to that dept and try to reduce it, choose wisely!

My generation hasn't elected anybody. Young people don't vote. Old people are who decide elections. Sadly I think we're going the wrong way, continuing to elect people who will borrow and spend away the income of future generations for political gain. As I age, I wonder where the tipping point is of where I should just become selfish and stop caring; we're already 20 trillion in the hole with no end to that in sight and no incentive to fix it. Of course I talk to my friends and neighbors and all of you guys about it and have for at least a decade, but if nobody will listen, the problem will just continue.

I don't have kids either and I continue to pay taxes to support other people's offspring. My state is dead last in education as well.

Maybe the millennial's will not treat their younger generation with such contempt and the world will be a better place.

I was born in 1987 (not sure if that makes me a millennial depends who you ask) I camp, always have. I'm married (been with my wife since highschool) have 2 kids and a job (I went to school, and paid for it myself, and got a job in my field and paid off my loans so don't fall for that ****)same for my wife. We own a home, we want things, we don't expect thing and don't live beyone our means. My camper was build in 91. It has no onboard water, a furnace I don't trust to run and a fridge that flames out on propane (we run it on battery and electric) I don't agree with the gross majority of the millennial ****. do what works for you and yours and stop trying to group everyone.

As a person who is a 'millenial" (I am 32), I absolutely adore being outdoors. In the past few years I've moved up from a truck topper, to a RTT, to a 1980 slide in camper, to now, a small (24') 1984 Class C. The problem with RVing now is that if you aren't handy, it's too darn expensive! Even some of my friends who have purchased new, thinking they'd save on maintenance, have had a rude awakening. I'm thankful my father taught me to wrench on my own junk. Without that skill set, I would 100% not be into RVing. A huge problem with the industry as a whole is quality. The difference in problems between my old 1980 slide-in camper and a 2018 slide-in camper is no different (actually I might argue the 2018's have more problems). If RV quality had improved over the past 40 years, more young people would be into it. But, who wants to spend their holidays at Camping World waiting for someone to attempt to fix your camper?

The only other thing I know my peers dislike is RV parks. Loud, crowded, EXPENSIVE. I try and avoid RV parks like the plague. Give me a piece of BLM or Crown land and I'm happiest.

That's my $0.02.

goducks10 wrote:
10,000 boomers retire each day (65 yrs old)
60% at age 62 collect their SS.
Average life span in 1935, 61 years.
Today its' 78.6. 81 for women and 76 for men.
It's no wonder SS is draining faster than figured.

If the government hadn't stolen all the money out of it it would be fine.

larry cad wrote:
Despite having modern amenities such as USB, etc., an RV will continue to be an RV, meaning even brand new ones will require continuous and frequent maintenance. The question is, will the new generation be prepared to do various and frequent mechanical and electrical repairs on their RV? Most of us older folks who have been doing this for many years just naturally and automatically fix things that go wrong as a matter of course. We change the blown fuse, tighten the bolt, etc. and then move on to the next destination. Kids nowadays want to sit in front of a monitor, or hold their Iphone up next to their eyes and block out any sense of reality around them. Even the fundamental goal of RVing goes against their grain by "getting away from it all". If we are aware of the world around us, we will realize that many things we grew up with have changed and/or are gone completely. It is entirely possible the RV industry will gradually shrink and may even die off. The world is changing folks. Depending on your point of view, this is good or bad.

Well said!

10,000 boomers retire each day (65 yrs old)
60% at age 62 collect their SS.
Average life span in 1935, 61 years.
Today its' 78.6. 81 for women and 76 for men.
It's no wonder SS is draining faster than figured.

CFerguson wrote:
I once calculated that in order to get back what I paid into the social security scam, I would have to live to be 126 years old. And that doesn't include ANY inflation or what I could have done investmentwise with those funds.

I don't think this is correct, maybe you could post your math.