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NC Hauler wrote:

Bedlam wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:
Heck, you can buy a license for almost any weight you want I figure. But what I'm saying is how safe is it to purchase tires that can carry more weight than the AXLE is rated at? Unless I'm just misunderstanding the whole post. Take a 6,084# rated axle, put tires on the truck that can handle a total of 9,000#, and now, though the axle is rated almost 3,000# less than the tire rating, I can now carry almost 3,000# more payload???:h Really don't think it works that way...unless, someone knows that the 6,084# RAWR isn't correct and that it'll actually handle the 9,000# that the tires can now carry....

You seem to pick and choose what I wrote. It is a Sterling 10.5" axle rated at 9750 lbs. The 6200 lb RAWR on my sticker is due to the lowest rated component that shipped with my truck. Upgrading tires, rims and suspension does bring up this rating as long as none of the individual components are over their rating.

GVWR is also possible to alter if you know that other similarly configured vehicles have a greater GVWR than yours. When you find the lower rated component that differentiates the vehicles and replace that component with a higher rated one, your GVWR can safely increase.

This takes time-consuming research into what components are used and what the component specifications are verses a combination of components. Some people are adept at this research and the required modifications while others are better off purchasing a different vehicle rather than upgrading an existing one.

No, I don't "pick and choose" what YOU post, I have no reason to do that. How can YOU ASSUME earlier in this thread that the OP "probably" has a rear axle rating of over 9,000# and just "take off from there"??:h My 2013 Ram 3500 DUALLY only has a RAWR of 9,750#..I find it extremely hard to believe that his 07 2500 has close to the the same RAWR as my 13' Dually......don't you??? I didn't assume, I went by what he stated. BUT, when I see where SOMEONE, don't know who...say's something about a 6,080# rated rear axle and they're being told to just add a tire that can handle more weight...seems like there is some assumptions going on there BEFORE the fact that we don't know about...so, to add tires to where it can handle 9,000#...THAT's what "I" was speaking to....

Heck, you have the same rear axle rating on your truck as I do on my 13'...and again, I REALLY don't care one way or the other...If someone had STATED they had a RAWR of 9,750# and it was limited by the OEM tires, hey, simple math, and I've had a LOT of that in my day's as an Engineer...have at it, BUT, when someone, I don't know who, states they have a rear axle rated at 6,000# and Doesn't qualify in the same post that it's ACTUALLY RATED AT 9,750#, sorry, I will wonder why they would add a tire that can carry more weight than the axle can handle.

"pick and choose" what you posted? hardly.....If I got your post mixed up with someone else's than my bad and I apologize..I don't see anything wrong with covering the axles weight rating with tires that can handle the axles weight rating. "I" was ADDRESSING if someone actually HAD a Rear axle rated at 6,000 whatever pounds (as was alluded to on here somewhere), and someone suggest going to a tire that will give them an additional 3,000# of cargo carrying capacity, that might not be the smart thing to do, IF they only have a rear axle weight rating at 6,000 something pounds.....

So how far do we got now...we've kicked out GVWR..it's a joke, a meaningless, useless number...hey, I'll even almost, but not yet, buy into that...but NOW, EVEN IF THE REAR AXLE HAS A POSTED RATING OF "WHATEVER"...I will also ignore that???? I mean if it ACTUALLY IS rated at what it's stated to be rated at..we just put higher weight range tires on it and it is now a 9,000 rated rear axle EVEN THOUGH, manufacturer STATES it's a 6,000# rated axle:h

Before long, as someone suggested sometime back, kick out 1500, 2500, 3500 SRW and 3500 DRW truck badging.. buy whatever truck you like, tow whatever you want with it, ignore most, if not all manufacturer recommended towing and hauling specs, buy some tires and airbags and go and just "hook up and go"...one could save a pile of money that way to be sure...

Thus the problem with the "Ratings are just suggestions/warranty issues/performance issue crowd".

To the OP, there are some of us who think the manufacturers ratings have real purpose and the engineers that established them have "good" reasons for establishing for it. Some think "safety" is just a buzzword, some of us live it. It's your truck and trailer and you can do anything you want with it but I feel if you exceed any of the ratings you have added risk that is not necessary and is inherently unsafe by doing so. JMO based on 30 years of safety training, management and experience.