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- harley001Explorerthanks ! for the input i will keep that in mind
- NC_HaulerExplorer
harley001 wrote:
Ok guy's looked my truck up dodge ram 2500 quad cab 5.9l 4:10 rear end 2007
gvwr- 9,000 payload-2635 cwt-6365 gawr front-4630 rear-6000 gcwr-20,000
fifth wheel 2009 fuzion302 34' dry 11,165 what do you think!
mike
Again, you need to go more with the GVW of the 5er....dry weight isn't realistic....no one tows a 5er "dry" or "empty"...Take 20% of the 5er's GVW and that'll give you a "ballpark" of how much pin weight you'll be putting in the bed of your truck. - BedlamModeratorMost likely the axle has a rating over 9000 lbs, but the suspension and wheels will be your limiting factor. If you are set on getting this toy hauler look into the 19.5" wheels which will give you over 8000 lbs of wheel capacity on the rear. The truck will most likely squat under that weigh and SuperSprings or other suspension aids would be required to level you out.
Watch your GCWR - You will easily add 3000 lbs to the toy hauler once personal items, toys and water are added. I was about 4000 lbs heavier than dry when I had mine filled with toys and water for a long trip... - harley001ExplorerOk guy's looked my truck up dodge ram 2500 quad cab 5.9l 4:10 rear end 2007
gvwr- 9,000 payload-2635 cwt-6365 gawr front-4630 rear-6000 gcwr-20,000
fifth wheel 2009 fuzion302 34' dry 11,165 what do you think!
mike - harley001Explorerthanks guy's for the help will post what i find.
mike - Old-BiscuitExplorer IIIHere is a Dodge Towing Guide..........LINK
Pick your year truck
Pick model/series
Pick body style/drivetrain
Pick bed length
Pick engine/tranny
Results will give you all info needed
Compare to what your truck actually weighs camp ready....then you can match a trailer to it
Under 13K would be my guess if you have the payload available - NC_HaulerExplorer
harley001 wrote:
thinks! guy's for the help i will look into it running 10 ply tires and air bags my truck is a 2007 ram 2500d 5.9l.
thanks again!! great help here. mike
Harley001, welcome to the forum. As stated, you'll need to use the 5er's GVW to get a real world idea of what you're going to be towing. As also stated, take approx. 20% of the 5er GVW and that'll give you an idea of how much weight you'll be putting in the bed of your truck, (pin weight). If 5er does have a GVW of 15,000# , you could be dropping up to 3,000# pin weight into the bed of your truck.
I don't know what GVWR is on your truck, but odds are you'll go over that..at that point, you'll want to know what your rear axle rating is.
Air bags will not add any more cargo carrying capacity for you, only level the load, and just make sure that you don't exceed your trucks rear axle rating by adding a higher weight range tire, only to exceed the rear axle rating.
If I were you, I'd want to know the trucks weight, ready to go camping, fuel, family pets, whatever, add 200# for a 5er hitch...get it weighed...add 2500-3000# for pin weight (if 5er has GVW of 15,000#), you probably be able to tow it, but odds are you might be pushing limits of trucks RAWR, but I don't know what that is.
Good luck in your matching up truck to 5er and Happy Camping to you:) - harley001Explorerthinks! guy's for the help i will look into it running 10 ply tires and air bags my truck is a 2007 ram 2500d 5.9l.
thanks again!! great help here. mike - MFLNomad IIMike, I think the TH, when loaded, may approach the truck tow rating.
However, the bigger problem may be the pin weight of the trailer, plus the weight of the hitch, passengers, etc. This may be around 3,000#s +. You may have to add extra spring, air-bags, tire capacity etc.
Just a few things to consider, hope it works for you,
Jerry - Old-BiscuitExplorer IIIharley001
Don't worry so much about where you post.........mods will move IF necessary.
Your question is about your tow vehicle so it's good right here.
You state the dry weight of trailer 11,165#.......doesn't mean much as no body tows dry.
Your 2005 CTD 2500 may be rated to tow 14,300# but in the real world you will run out of payload before reaching that magical tow number.
To get a better idea of what your truck is capable of 'carrying' load your truck up ready to camp (you, passengers, any stuff in cab, any stuff in bed, full fuel tank and add 250# for hitch--if you don't have one in truck) then go get it weighed.
Weigh ticket will give you Front axle weight, Rear axle weight and Trucks Total weight.
Then subtract total weight from your trucks GVWR (door sticker #)
That number is what you have left in actual payload (what you can carry)
Then find out the GVWR of that trailer (probably close to 15K)
Take 20% of that GVWR to get an idea what 'wet' pin weight would be (15K GVWR=3000# pin weight or higher)
With that pin weight number do you have enough payload left to carry that weight and not go over your trucks GVWR, RAWR or Rear Tire MAX Load Rating?????
Think you will find that TH is too heavy for your 2500
You should probably look for a trailer with 12K GVWR....especially if your truck GVWR is only 8800#
Better to match a trailer within your trucks actual numbers vs having a trailer that is too heavy.
So go get your truck weighed..then you have real numbers to use.
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