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Cdaddy
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Apr 18, 2017

No see ums

Just booked a trip to ocracoke N.P. I have visited the island in the past and never had a problem with them. But the campground reviews say they are bad in the area. Any suggestion for repellent for them and can they get through the window screens?
  • Bzeitham wrote:
    This is the spray of choice here in Florida.

    https://www.amazon.com/NO-NO-SEE-UM-Natural-Insect-Repellent/dp/B00CO6SF78/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492511820&sr=8-1&keywords=no+see+um+spray

    (soory don't know how to make this a clicky)

    My son-in-law fishes in the Everglades and this is the product that works best. When in the hardware business we would sell hundreds of bottles of this a year. It's all natural and WORKS!


    Here's a clickable link for ya:

    All Natural DEET Free Product
  • This is the spray of choice here in Florida.

    https://www.amazon.com/NO-NO-SEE-UM-Natural-Insect-Repellent/dp/B00CO6SF78/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1492511820&sr=8-1&keywords=no+see+um+spray

    (soory don't know how to make this a clicky)

    My son-in-law fishes in the Everglades and this is the product that works best. When in the hardware business we would sell hundreds of bottles of this a year. It's all natural and WORKS!
  • Cdaddy wrote:
    Just booked a trip to ocracoke N.P. I have visited the island in the past and never had a problem with them. But the campground reviews say they are bad in the area. Any suggestion for repellent for them and can they get through the window screens?

    Never been to that locale but have spent time at Fire Island National Seashore which seems to have a similar landscape.
    This is my " never travel in buggy areas w/o it" go to:

    Sawyer's Permathrin

    Works for no see 'ums,skeeters/gnats, and most biting flies and was developed for use by US troops during various Middle East conflicts.

    I spray it on my tents as well as sitting around the camp fire and hiking clothing and chairs. It acts as a repellent for some bugs and an insecticide for others. I find the non-aerosol pump bottle gives the best bang for the buck. I think I've got the TT protected if it doesn't work on hard surface (I don't know but the people @ Sawyer's toll free number are very helpful and can say yea or no) by attaching a Paha Que screen accessory to my TT's entrance and spray it w/ Sawyer.
    No idea what type of RV you'll be traveling with or how fine a gauge your window screens are but you can just add a layer or 2 of bridal veiling/ mosquito netting to the windows that are sprayed with Permathrin and attach using a spring rod or just duct tape it to the window and door frames. The veiling costs about 4 bucks @ yard and comes in 72" to 108" width so a little bit goes a long way.

    The active ingredient in Sawyer's product is Picaridin so if you find a different manufacturer's version look for that name. You can buy it at REI, Cabela's and some Walmart's. We get two 16 oz bottles every camping season and always have a little leftover.

    For exposed skin we use DEET w/ a concentration of at least 30%. I've found that the wipes are more effective than the sprays since there is less chance of missing a spot. Costs more but hey sometimes you just have to pay.

    HTH.
  • There are several varieties of "no-see-ums" and they are seasonal. The sand fleas of the southeastern coastal and Piedmont regions are terrible! Many of the southeastern no-see-ums I've encountered can get through regular screening, too - we keep the windows and doors closed and use the ACs. When FT Stewart, GA, was the 24th Infantry Division, they used to go to the field smelling like a French bordello because Avon Skin-So-Soft was the only thing they found (at the time) that would keep them off. Troops must have bought the stuff by the gallon. There may be better repellents now.

    Rob