Some of you may be in a similar situation . . . We’ve been RV’ing in California’s Gold Country since right after Thanksgiving. Reservations were made prior to the most recent lockdown at The Lakes RV, Black Oak RV, Jackson Rancheria & Vineyard RV. All were multi-day. This trip was made specifically at the request of my daughter-in-law, an A/F nurse recently sent TDY, who was concerned about my son’s (ex-Spec Ops) ability to get to SMF on his own following a traumatic brain injury about a year ago. We will be taking him Thursday.Our concern was the trip home to Murrieta from Vacaville. The route we take avoids LA and is well over 500 miles. (Can I do it in one day? Yep. Do I want to? Nope.) We always stay overnight at Orange Grove RV east of Bakersfield on 58 our last night out. Would this latest ‘directive’ prohibit a single night’s stop as we were homeward bound?I just checked the park’s website. Followed up with a phone call to confirm. No problem. If you find yourself in a similar situation, their website is a good place to check.

My understanding is "yes" it is a violation of the state health department's rules. See....https://www.gov.ca.gov/2020/12/03/california-health-officials-announce-a-regional-stay-at-home-order-triggered-by-icu-capacity/"Additionally, overnight stays at campgrounds will not be permitted."

That's a lot of acronyms that this civilian doesn't understand, but I appreciate your family's service.That's a long drive for one day in an RV. Good for you for breaking it up into two days.Bako is in Kern County, and they seem pretty sensible about their restrictions. (We camp a lot on the other side of the hills, closer to Ridgecrest.)The recent court decisions are showing that some of these blanket restrictions aren't holding up to scrutiny. Specifically, the L.A. County restaurant closures were found to be "capricious and arbitrary", and they don't weigh any risks from staying open versus risks of closing.In your case, I think you're wise to weigh the risk of driving past your safe limits against the risk that The Man doesn't want you to camp overnight. Which one is safer? If you have a contactless checkin and practice social distancing by staying in your own RV, you are much safer spending the night there than you are driving past your limits.

“The recent court decisions are showing that some of these blanket restrictions aren't holding up to scrutiny. Specifically, the L.A. County restaurant closures were found to be "capricious and arbitrary", and they don't weigh any risks from staying open versus risks of closing.”Is our moderator qualified to give this legal opinion? Read the court’s decision...at a minimum? Advocating applying a Los Angeles Superior Court decision to camping in Kern County? The camping ban is a state health department decision. No court has ruled the camping ban capricious.

Lwiddis wrote:“The recent court decisions are showing that some of these blanket restrictions aren't holding up to scrutiny. Specifically, the L.A. County restaurant closures were found to be "capricious and arbitrary", and they don't weigh any risks from staying open versus risks of closing.”Is our moderator qualified to give this legal opinion? Read the court’s decision...at a minimum? Advocating applying a Los Angeles Superior Court decision to camping in Kern County? The camping ban is a state health department decision. No court has ruled the camping ban capricious.If it makes you feel better Lwiddis, similar groups are filing this week to challenge the state's capricious standards too.Regardless though, I'm fairly certain that we shall all survive this man's overnight stay in Bakersfield. Speaking from personal experience, this is one of the least risky things going on in Bako right now.

If the campground is open and taking reservations, don't worry about it. If someone complains, say you felt unsafe driving while tired and stuck to your own RV only to get out of the area the next day.

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GDS-3950BH
Explorer
Dec 17, 2020
time2roll wrote:
Blazing Zippers wrote:
GEEZZZZ!!! (snip)
I had several quips about Cali and their newly thought up restrictions, but I'm not going to write them here.
Peace out...
Imagine if the the entire population of Coeur d'Alene got sick in a single day and 10,000 more in the surrounding area... yup CA had over 61,000 new cases today alone. New record.
Stay safe.

No offense if this post is deleted by the moderator.

Imagine if someone had advanced diabetes, COPD, was morbidly obese for the last 10 years, then picked up Covid 19 and took a dirt nap. Also Imagine if the official death certificate for said person listed cause of death as one of the above afflictions as opposed to Covid 19.If said person could of picked up the general yearly influenza and croaked, what would the official cause of death then be listed as if Covid 19 had never come down the pike?

Never let a perfectly good crisis go to waste.

Breaking -----------------

Alaska Health Worker Had a Serious Allergic Reaction After Pfizer's Vaccine
WASHINGTON — A health care worker in Alaska had a serious allergic reaction after getting Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine Tuesday, symptoms that emerged within minutes and required an overnight hospital stay.

The middle-aged worker had no history of allergies but had an anaphylactic reaction that began 10 minutes after receiving the vaccine at Bartlett Regional Hospital in Juneau, Alaska, a hospital official said. She experienced a rash over her face and torso, shortness of breath and an elevated heart rate.
Although the Pfizer vaccine was shown to be safe and about 95% effective in a clinical trial involving 44,000 participants, the Alaska case will likely intensify concerns about possible side effects. Experts described the woman’s symptoms as potentially life-threatening and said that they may prompt calls for tighter guidelines to ensure that recipients are carefully monitored for adverse reactions.
he Alaska woman’s reaction was believed to be similar to the anaphylactic reactions two health workers in Britain experienced after receiving the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine last week. Like her, both recovered.

Those cases are expected to come up Thursday, when FDA scientists are scheduled to meet with the agency’s outside panel of experts to decide whether to recommend that regulators approve Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine for emergency use.

No mention of how many actually administered so far since the beginning of the week nationwide, but lets run with this story, the doom and gloom, were all gonna die.
time2roll
Nomad
Dec 17, 2020
Blazing Zippers wrote:
GEEZZZZ!!! (snip)
I had several quips about Cali and their newly thought up restrictions, but I'm not going to write them here.
Peace out...
Imagine if the the entire population of Coeur d'Alene got sick in a single day and 10,000 more in the surrounding area... yup CA had over 61,000 new cases today alone. New record.
Stay safe.

No offense if this post is deleted by the moderator.
Blazing_Zippers
Explorer II
Dec 17, 2020
GEEZZZZ!!!
First, OP, thank your family member for his service for me. I mean that.
Second, maybe I'm missing the gist of the OP, but I gather he wanted some info about just parking overnight for a rest. Maybe folks in the area could calmly direct the OP to a place?
I had several quips about Cali and their newly thought up restrictions, but I'm not going to write them here.
Peace out...
time2roll
Nomad
Dec 17, 2020
aerbus32 wrote:
The purpose of my post was to provide the guidelines, referencing the RV park, that permit overnight travel.
Good to know just in case. I have stayed there previously.
azdryheat
Explorer
Dec 16, 2020
Who enforces these quarantines, the cops these states are trying to defund, lol? I, and the other drivers at our RV dealership, routinely travel interstate to our other dealerships in Calif and New Mexico to relocate RV's. A trip to Sacramento involves spending two nights in Calif, in different cities, so does that violate the king's quarantine order?

We are never confronted by anyone concerning our travel. Seems to me the quarantines have no teeth and we peons are free to go about our business unmolested.
gkainz
Explorer
Dec 16, 2020
to the OP - thanks from a Navy vet to your son and daughter-in-law for their service.

Safe travels and best wishes for no hassles.
aerbus32
Explorer II
Dec 16, 2020
The purpose of my post was to provide the guidelines, referencing the RV park, that permit overnight travel.
lostbytes
Explorer
Dec 16, 2020
I thought Admin Mike back in 2009 was the dude. Lol. Everyone gets their panties all bunches up over the riots, election and the virus that they forgot that they humans. Everyone becomes a know it all and turned that civil war clock closer to midnight than the WW3 clock called, Doomsday clock. Even I got bent a little. But, sheep no more! I knew something was wrong when CLM merge with another company and started sending me openings for campground host as I haven't been one since 2014...
GDS-3950BH
Explorer
Dec 16, 2020
lostbytes wrote:
Well. I'm going camping this next week for a week. Not saying where. Got my hazmat suit.

Could I interest you in a surplus Russian gas mask or self contained chemical suit?

At least there is one mod on these boards who does not click the close thread button every time Covid is mentioned, like most who think they're moderating a board for 10 yr olds.
lostbytes
Explorer
Dec 16, 2020
Well. I'm going camping this next week for a week. Not saying where. Got my hazmat suit.

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