Passport America and its ilk

The 'perception' is by a few.

The ones that actually check and stay know better.

PA works for most that understand.

I'll come to the park owner's defense to a small degree (and this is a first). He probably has very short shoulder seasons and a long hard winter where he has to close. Probably PA would be of limited value for him. But, as typical, he tends to broad brush his experience onto others..which do not share his circumstances or thought process.

WRVPO - dontcha just love it that people think they know how to run your business better than you do!

So you get attacked because your business model works for you, but others want you to model your business after what THEY want.

Seems like any time anyone offers a dissenting opinion on this site, regardless of what it is, it turns into an attack.

Mike

westernrvparkowner wrote:
..your points..

I grew up in the restaurant business and you couldn't pay me enough to own one now. Can't imagine what it must be like having an RV park where customers are in your face 7 by 24.

DW had an aunt that was appalled that after spending "all that money" for a MH, parks would charge them more money to stay. Guess once people drop the big coin, they expect everything for free after that.

1968mooney wrote:
Is it not "great" that everyone on this forum "loves" each other? :S

We all love each other. Apparently some think that those who have a different opinion, or experience - are like that second cousin in the family everyone loves - but doesn't want anyone to know you are related.

travelnutz wrote:
Hey smart boy! If you have or had employees during the year you are paying into the unemployment fund with fees for having had employees. Of course, you want others to think your property tax assessments and insurance premiums stop and all your utility bills stop instantly when you close down after the season. What kind of mickey mouse business are you running anyway? Also, you likely pay a certified account and/or book keepers etc who keep the IRS away from your door or don't you even pay any taxes? Whoops, forgot about your lawyer/legal guru too. Wow! Sounds about right!

Go ahead and keep trying to tell anyone that you have ZERO fixed business costs while your CG are closed and with no monies coming in. Breathing people know better and they don't even have to be business owners! You are not as smart nor as convincing as you want forum readers to think. I'd avoid any of your CG's for sure! Just smarter than to be fleeced by someone like that with a big I little you mantra who is bent on high profit thinking only as you have stated with your own written words.

All I have to say!

Unfortunately, not worth wasting your time attempting to reason with your opponent, in this case. It's along the same lines as trying to teach a pig to sing. IIRC, he was recently advocating brutal cancellation policies, since otherwise he would be unable to fill his establishment on holiday weekends, this week, a different story, the place is too full to believe.

As you correctly noted, PPA can be a valuable tool for savvy CG owners. It only takes a few minutes of looking at the campground availability details of specific properties, posted at PPA, and a basic grasp of economics, to understand how the system works. There are plenty of desirable CGs that use it as a carefully managed tool to keep the house full, during times when sites would go empty. When you attempt to reason with a "businessman" who argues that empty sites are better than full ones, well............ remember what Forest Gump's mom had to say about intelligence.

GoPackGo wrote:
"I don't know if PA is similar at all to Thousand Trails or how many CGs they have or where."

They are not the same thing. PPA does not 'own' any CGs. CGs can sign up with them to offer discounts to people who are members of PPA. It works just like the Good Sam discount many people get.

you can get PA for 15 years for what one year of TT costs.
bumpy

Hey smart boy! If you have or had employees during the year you are paying into the unemployment fund with fees for having had employees. Of course, you want others to think your property tax assessments and insurance premiums stop and all your utility bills stop instantly when you close down after the season. What kind of mickey mouse business are you running anyway? Also, you likely pay a certified account and/or book keepers etc who keep the IRS away from your door or don't you even pay any taxes? Whoops, forgot about your lawyer/legal guru too. Wow! Sounds about right!

Go ahead and keep trying to tell anyone that you have ZERO fixed business costs while your CG are closed and with no monies coming in. Breathing people know better and they don't even have to be business owners! You are not as smart nor as convincing as you want forum readers to think. I'd avoid any of your CG's for sure! Just smarter than to be fleeced by someone like that with a big I little you mantra who is bent on high profit thinking only as you have stated with your own written words.

All I have to say!

Mich F wrote:
I find it amusing that some people can't get their money's worth with a PA membership.:h
This is only my second year belonging to PA. The first year I only used it at one park for 3 nights. The membership cost $44 and I saved over $55 for that one stay. I renewed last May or so for $44 and so far this year, I have only stayed at one park, again for 3 nights, where I saved over $67. Both were nice campgrounds. It seems like a no brainer to me, to keep renewing, even if I only use it once a year.

Yes, it is amazing how some people can't figure out how to save money using PA. I think their problem is if they can't use it at every RV park 365 days a year, then it's a bad deal. It is amusing, but sad.

Bill

I find it amusing that some people can't get their money's worth with a PA membership.:h
This is only my second year belonging to PA. The first year I only used it at one park for 3 nights. The membership cost $44 and I saved over $55 for that one stay. I renewed last May or so for $44 and so far this year, I have only stayed at one park, again for 3 nights, where I saved over $67. Both were nice campgrounds. It seems like a no brainer to me, to keep renewing, even if I only use it once a year.