Pet peeve, neighbors leave porch light on

dedmiston wrote:
………I've never been so glad to see a pump though.

That’s why I always carry me a little extra. It’s saved my bacon more than once.

Little can is for the generator, big can is for the truck.



:):)

mooky stinks wrote:

toedtoes wrote:
But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?

For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground. So, if the campground has no artificial lighting then leaving a porch light on all night would be a no-no. If there are lights outside the restrooms that are on all night, then a porch light would be reasonable. If there are "street lights", then additional lighting would be acceptable.

And the campground may have different sections that differ in what's acceptable. A campground I visit often is like that. When you drive in, there is a long stretch with full hookup sites and "street lights". Around a corner is a loop with just electric and water. This loop has no " street lights" but has an outdoor light at the restrooms. Another section is dry, but has the outdoor bathroom light. The loop I stay at is dry, no "street lights", and a vault toilet with no lights at all. Across the road are three group sites with varying degrees of lighting.

If someone came to " my" loop and left their porch light on all night, I'd take issue. But it'd be fine in the other sections.

I can’t believe what I just read

I don't follow you. What's wrong with his post?

toedtoes wrote:
For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground.

We stayed at a quirky little place in the middle of nowhere called Rusty's RV Ranch near Rodeo, NM that had a weird "lighting protocol". They literally prohibited any exterior lighting and required you to draw your blinds at night to contain any interior light sources. They catered to amateur astronomers and guaranteed no light pollution. They even loaned everyone in your group a red flashlight to help you find your way to the hot tub at night.

There was only one astronomer there, but he was pretty hardcore. He had a toy hauler with tens of thousands of dollars worth of gear in the garage of his hauler. Pretty impressive.

Rusty's was one of the coolest RV parks we ever saw. The spaces were massive and you were nowhere near your nearest neighbor. My only gripe was how remote the place was. We coasted into Rusty's on fumes and found out that the closest place to fill up was ten miles away at a place that wasn't even really a gas station. It was just a pump in the middle of a lot. No canopy, no c-store, no nothing. It just had a light post and a CCTV camera pointed at you. I've never been so glad to see a pump though.

Why? What is so unreasonable with what I said?

toedtoes wrote:
But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?

For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground. So, if the campground has no artificial lighting then leaving a porch light on all night would be a no-no. If there are lights outside the restrooms that are on all night, then a porch light would be reasonable. If there are "street lights", then additional lighting would be acceptable.

And the campground may have different sections that differ in what's acceptable. A campground I visit often is like that. When you drive in, there is a long stretch with full hookup sites and "street lights". Around a corner is a loop with just electric and water. This loop has no " street lights" but has an outdoor light at the restrooms. Another section is dry, but has the outdoor bathroom light. The loop I stay at is dry, no "street lights", and a vault toilet with no lights at all. Across the road are three group sites with varying degrees of lighting.

If someone came to " my" loop and left their porch light on all night, I'd take issue. But it'd be fine in the other sections.

I can’t believe what I just read

toedtoes wrote:
But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?
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imo it’s both

But is one camper's habit of leaving their outdoor light(s) on all night the campground's environment? Or is it an individual camper's idiosyncrasy?

For me, I would say follow the lighting protocol of the campground. So, if the campground has no artificial lighting then leaving a porch light on all night would be a no-no. If there are lights outside the restrooms that are on all night, then a porch light would be reasonable. If there are "street lights", then additional lighting would be acceptable.

And the campground may have different sections that differ in what's acceptable. A campground I visit often is like that. When you drive in, there is a long stretch with full hookup sites and "street lights". Around a corner is a loop with just electric and water. This loop has no " street lights" but has an outdoor light at the restrooms. Another section is dry, but has the outdoor bathroom light. The loop I stay at is dry, no "street lights", and a vault toilet with no lights at all. Across the road are three group sites with varying degrees of lighting.

If someone came to " my" loop and left their porch light on all night, I'd take issue. But it'd be fine in the other sections.

Does one go to a campground to experience that campground’s environment or does one go to a campground and expect that campground to change its environment to meet your expectations?

Just like don’t move to the country and expect it to feel like the suburbs.

If the campground has closely spaced sites expect neighbors to be close and they may leave their lights on.

BCSnob wrote:
You all have missed the point; they’re motel 6 and have left the light on for you. Go check in.

In over 20 years of traveling with our TTs we’ve never stayed in a campground. If there is a flood light where we stay while eventing we put up something against the window where the light is coming in; we’re not going to ask the host to turn off their flood light. We use the same procedure when we sleep overnight in a parking lot in route to or from events.

We listen to barking dogs every night; it’s their job. Good luck to any neighbor who tries to get them to stop barking (we live where there are “right to farm” ordinances.

We are around off leash dogs at every event (including ours); they’re all under verbal control.

I agree with you, but I also think you are talking about different things.

RV parks and parking lots are not the same as a traditional public campground. People don't expect to have total darkness in an RV park or parking lot like they do in most public campgrounds.

Living in an agricultural area is different than living in a residential area. People expect to hear animals. And dogs will rarely bark through the night out of boredom and frustration. And the distance between the animals and a neighbor's bedroom are going to be far greater.*

A dog trial event is a lot different than a local park. The dogs are at these events specifically because they have been trained far beyond the average pet dog and are showing that training.

*Unfortunately, there are many many idiots who move into an agriculural area because of the "atmosphere" and then proceed to try to eliminate the atmospere because it's "bothersome". But that's a different problem.

bucky wrote:
So "Karen" is the short version of Little Miss Can't Be Wrong? Who knew?

Don’t think so. But it was a cool song. (Not Karen)