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cekkk
Sep 13, 2013Explorer
LR, DW and I left home two weeks ago and so I'm watching the news and reading online papers like others. Manitou Springs, which is at the western most end of Colo. Spgs., has really been hit hard by the rains falling on the Waldo Canyon burn scar immediately north and high above it. The town was flooded at least three times before we left, with at least one life lost. Now another this week per the news outlets. Fountain Creek runs right through the business district and I believe both bodies were found in the creek, the first being a teenager who was swept into Colo. Spgs.
Boulder County's flooding seems to be due more to massive rainfall in a brief period of time from what I've heard. Their problems might also be compounded due the to burn scar left after a fire in that area a few years ago.
As for our immediate area, no problems are likely, although not impossible. We are less than two miles from the Hayman fire burn scar of 2002, but it is below us, plus there are no significant creeks nearby so the homes at its foot have not had problems as far as I know.
The shame of this whole mess is that the fires were caused by almost 15 years of drought, causing the mostly Ponderosa pine forests to have extremely low levels of water in the trees. And now instead of getting relief from the summer's rains, more damage is being caused as a result of the previous fires.
I would not want to fail to mention to folks that our fire, the Hayman, was at the time Colorado's worst forest fire on record in terms of area and 2nd most costly to insurance companies. That fire was set by a USDA Forest Service employee, Terry Barton and, in my opinion, exacerbated when the Service kicked the local fire companies off the fire because they lacked certain "required" qualifications. Never mind the Service had nothing with which to attack the fire nearby. Plus, they refused to allow the Cripple Creek gold mining company to take its huge bulldozers into the area to create a fire break. Seems it would have ruined some trees!
Air tankers volunteered but were also refused due to regulations requiring contract planes, inadequate in numbers, be exhausted first.
As a result, we residents had to watch a manageable fire blossom into 137,000 acres that burned for six weeks and consumed 600 structures. We were evacuated from our home for over two weeks.
Barton took the blame and did five years in prison, but the FS skated. Disgusting. We lost all of our local reservoirs, our fishing areas, for years and the forest is gone for the rest of my life and the lives of our three daughters. Our federal government at its insane worst.
Boulder County's flooding seems to be due more to massive rainfall in a brief period of time from what I've heard. Their problems might also be compounded due the to burn scar left after a fire in that area a few years ago.
As for our immediate area, no problems are likely, although not impossible. We are less than two miles from the Hayman fire burn scar of 2002, but it is below us, plus there are no significant creeks nearby so the homes at its foot have not had problems as far as I know.
The shame of this whole mess is that the fires were caused by almost 15 years of drought, causing the mostly Ponderosa pine forests to have extremely low levels of water in the trees. And now instead of getting relief from the summer's rains, more damage is being caused as a result of the previous fires.
I would not want to fail to mention to folks that our fire, the Hayman, was at the time Colorado's worst forest fire on record in terms of area and 2nd most costly to insurance companies. That fire was set by a USDA Forest Service employee, Terry Barton and, in my opinion, exacerbated when the Service kicked the local fire companies off the fire because they lacked certain "required" qualifications. Never mind the Service had nothing with which to attack the fire nearby. Plus, they refused to allow the Cripple Creek gold mining company to take its huge bulldozers into the area to create a fire break. Seems it would have ruined some trees!
Air tankers volunteered but were also refused due to regulations requiring contract planes, inadequate in numbers, be exhausted first.
As a result, we residents had to watch a manageable fire blossom into 137,000 acres that burned for six weeks and consumed 600 structures. We were evacuated from our home for over two weeks.
Barton took the blame and did five years in prison, but the FS skated. Disgusting. We lost all of our local reservoirs, our fishing areas, for years and the forest is gone for the rest of my life and the lives of our three daughters. Our federal government at its insane worst.
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