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The KXL is very political because it's a matter of policy. That's what politics is about: determining the best policy for the Citizenry to pursue, through their voting and advocating.
KXL will COST the USA a lot of money through immediate and long term losses, but the RETURNS will be very small, if there are any at all. The ROI will be very small, or non existent, or even negative. I'm against KXL because the ROI is so very bad.
Some of the COSTS are:
(1) loss of valuable croplands to oil use. In the longterm croplands are worth far more than oil lands: we will never have less demand for crops, but we will have diminishing demand for petrol (which is even evident in the USA in recent years).
(2) loss of valuable freshwater resources in our acquifers, rivers and lakes. Partly due to direct loss in fracking (which requires about 4 gallons of fresh water for every gallon of tarsands oil produced), and partly due to 'accidental' pollution from burst pipelines and burst 'holding' ponds. In fact, such pollution is not accidental at all: the pipeline operators know that because they even plan for such 'accidents' and set aside either money or insurance according to the private knowledge they have of their (poor) past performance and 'accident' rates.
There are over 200 chemicals added to freshwater used in fracking to deal with: facilitating lubrication, increasing pumping rates thru pipes, viscosity control, fungus control, etc.. When government agencies, reporters, and private citizens ask or demand an accounting of what those chemicals and dosages, they claim 'proprietary' privilege over their "Intellectual Property": that revealing that would give their competitors an economic advantage.
All the additives we know of (through independent chemical assay) are volitale petroleum products and cancer causing. The 'produce' water that comes out of fracking is unuseable and poisonous. Every bit of it, and it cannot be fixed or pureified. Usually it is pumped into an empty well deep underground with the hope that it never is seen again. Hope. No assurance.
That water is gone: lost to humanity. Previously, water was a remarkable illustration of the use of a resource in a closed recycle system, as it flowed between uses for nourishment and transportation, never becoming permanently polluted or destroyed because of the mild nature of the pollution. But KXL and fracking change that and result in a permanent loss of useful water every year.
(3) loss of jobs and job income in the general economy. Losses will be forced on the citizenry as those subsidies to preferred industries shift employment subsidies from new, sunrise industries, to old sunset industries that are already operating past the point of diminishing returns.
The Cornell University report on job increases for KXL show just a few hundred to a couple thousand jobs benefit to KXL (using a conventional transparent method, whereas the KXL estimate uses an estimate of several thousand from a mercenary consultant who uses a secret method that they refuse to disclose, claiming it's 'proprietary'.
None of the oil will benefit the USA because it will be too expensive to refine to gasoline standards. None. All the benefits of KXL will go to China and others.
KXL is a bad deal for the USA.
KXL will COST the USA a lot of money through immediate and long term losses, but the RETURNS will be very small, if there are any at all. The ROI will be very small, or non existent, or even negative. I'm against KXL because the ROI is so very bad.
Some of the COSTS are:
(1) loss of valuable croplands to oil use. In the longterm croplands are worth far more than oil lands: we will never have less demand for crops, but we will have diminishing demand for petrol (which is even evident in the USA in recent years).
(2) loss of valuable freshwater resources in our acquifers, rivers and lakes. Partly due to direct loss in fracking (which requires about 4 gallons of fresh water for every gallon of tarsands oil produced), and partly due to 'accidental' pollution from burst pipelines and burst 'holding' ponds. In fact, such pollution is not accidental at all: the pipeline operators know that because they even plan for such 'accidents' and set aside either money or insurance according to the private knowledge they have of their (poor) past performance and 'accident' rates.
There are over 200 chemicals added to freshwater used in fracking to deal with: facilitating lubrication, increasing pumping rates thru pipes, viscosity control, fungus control, etc.. When government agencies, reporters, and private citizens ask or demand an accounting of what those chemicals and dosages, they claim 'proprietary' privilege over their "Intellectual Property": that revealing that would give their competitors an economic advantage.
All the additives we know of (through independent chemical assay) are volitale petroleum products and cancer causing. The 'produce' water that comes out of fracking is unuseable and poisonous. Every bit of it, and it cannot be fixed or pureified. Usually it is pumped into an empty well deep underground with the hope that it never is seen again. Hope. No assurance.
That water is gone: lost to humanity. Previously, water was a remarkable illustration of the use of a resource in a closed recycle system, as it flowed between uses for nourishment and transportation, never becoming permanently polluted or destroyed because of the mild nature of the pollution. But KXL and fracking change that and result in a permanent loss of useful water every year.
(3) loss of jobs and job income in the general economy. Losses will be forced on the citizenry as those subsidies to preferred industries shift employment subsidies from new, sunrise industries, to old sunset industries that are already operating past the point of diminishing returns.
The Cornell University report on job increases for KXL show just a few hundred to a couple thousand jobs benefit to KXL (using a conventional transparent method, whereas the KXL estimate uses an estimate of several thousand from a mercenary consultant who uses a secret method that they refuse to disclose, claiming it's 'proprietary'.
None of the oil will benefit the USA because it will be too expensive to refine to gasoline standards. None. All the benefits of KXL will go to China and others.
KXL is a bad deal for the USA.
