RV Fuel Issues & Prices - Post 'Em Here!

LindsayRichards wrote:

Some are some aren't, wink wink

This is coming from the 1,000 mpg Fisker guy?

I do not know about your Fisker but I'm averaging 500 mpg with my Volt but it is still early I think I can do better!

Taking the Dmax out for a walk Sat, DW doesn't want to wrinkle her bridesmaid's dress, LOL. Anymore it feels like we are riding in our living room in a couple of lazyboys when we use the truck!

By the by, diesel here is betw'n 4.19 and 4.49 a bargin again, LOL

SRT says diesel is 20¢ more than reg., while here the spread is nearly 60. Local gas is still in the three-fifties.

cekkk wrote:
Again, I don't believe it's possible to have intelligent discourse on this subject sans politics. And I don't mean whether one party will or won't drill. Politics affects oil, and that is the subject, like it or not, affects oil prices in many ways, from many countries' Middle East policies, to the value of our dollar, to Israel/Iran, and on and on.

Supply and demand influences on price enter at a different level. That is, that factor influences only the price resulting from the political aspects.

Wind, solar, geothermal, wave energy currently have minor, if any, effect on prices.

NG is another story. There you have real potential for keeping billions of dollars onshore. But, again, politics!

Either we continue trying to keep this thread interesting by skirting the edges of what is permissible, or abandon it to those content with reporting a number they saw on a gas station sign on the way to work this morning.

I'm using Gas Buddy for the current fuel price as it is safer. In my (senior) mind, worldly politics play a role in fuel prices, but we'll leave it at that.....:R

OK, local gasoline prices are inching closer to that magical $4.00 mark. After leaping 10¢ a gallon last Friday, prices at some stations have inched upward from $3.97 to $3.99 a gallon. Diesel remains about 20¢ a gallon more expensive. Hey, I thought the "driving season" was over......:B

Some are some aren't, wink wink

This is coming from the 1,000 mpg Fisker guy?

LindsayRichards wrote:
Give it a break. People are generally smart enough to figure this out.

Some are some aren't, wink wink

Give it a break. People are generally smart enough to figure this out.

I argue that pump prices are independent. The causal reason is that foreign oil demand is greater than US demand (maybe US demand is even decreasing) and getting greater.

The empirical evidence is exemplified by these numbers from the EIA:

GAS PRICE HISTORY

http://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=pet&s=emm_epm0_pte_nus_dpg&f=m

...

Jun-2008 4.105
Jul-2008 4.114
Aug-2008 3.833
Sep-2008 3.756
Oct-2008 3.112
Nov-2008 2.208
Dec-2008 1.745
Jan-2009 1.84
Feb-2009 1.975
Mar-2009 2.011
Apr-2009 2.102
May-2009 2.316
Jun-2009 2.681
Jul-2009 2.582
Aug-2009 2.67
Sep-2009 2.609
Oct-2009 2.605
Nov-2009 2.706
Dec-2009 2.663
...

As you can see, there were big changes in prices that were not co-ordinated with USA presidents. In fact, they were caused by events in the OPEC markets.

Therefore, I conclude that electing or not electing any person will have little effect on prices in 2013 and beyond.

Again, I don't believe it's possible to have intelligent discourse on this subject sans politics. And I don't mean whether one party will or won't drill. Politics affects oil, and that is the subject, like it or not, affects oil prices in many ways, from many countries' Middle East policies, to the value of our dollar, to Israel/Iran, and on and on.

Supply and demand influences on price enter at a different level. That is, that factor influences only the price resulting from the political aspects.

Wind, solar, geothermal, wave energy currently have minor, if any, effect on prices.

NG is another story. There you have real potential for keeping billions of dollars onshore. But, again, politics!

Either we continue trying to keep this thread interesting by skirting the edges of what is permissible, or abandon it to those content with reporting a number they saw on a gas station sign on the way to work this morning.

Move on nothing to see here.................... Several posts blocked and edited.
I agree with the Mod if things get political IE Lindsay. I also think that unsubstanuated reports should not go unblocked. But how can we have a chat on fuel without a wider discussion on some other forms of energy and anything that has a bearing on these prices?

Fezziwig wrote:
Almost totally dependent on foreign demand, because that's where all the growth is.


* This post was edited 09/09/12 08:47pm by an administrator/moderator *

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