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My Fiat X1/9 was under 1300cc and plenty fast. Top speed over 100 mph (observed ;) ).

If you only have just one vehicle, and need 4wd.... an EV just will not work.
Even a RAV4 (closest to off-road capable) would have to go on a trailer/dolly behind the RV.

Although there are some off-road EVs competing in the Baja 1000.






How is this for exploring? Although I think it is just 2wd :(

https://www.facebook.com/ElectricVehicleWest

Casa Grande Diesel $3.79
Las Vegas $4.09
Boulder $4.19

Good Grief I feel at a loss as not going to the gas station for couple of months now I'm there 3 to 7 times a day LOL.
Got My last electric bill for the Volt 22 bucks for the month. Gas 0.
I'm my diesel bill is over $1500 so far this trip. I think we've dropped that much at the casinos though lol, ah retirement!

Most of us, I believe can not afford a separate toad and use our toads as a dual purpose as a daily driver. A mini car or EV won't cut it for most Americans who wish to take it on trips and use it as an all purpose vehicle. I am a big fan of the German diesels that are big in Europe. They get super mileage and have good power, plus they are larger than the 600 aforementioned 660 cc mini car. We go on trips for up to months at a time and usually put about the same miles on the toad as the coach. Toad comfort and safety are critical to us. I don/t ever see my wife ever feeling comfortable in a mini car at 70 mph on an expressway. We have a 4 wheel drive and like to explore when we travel. Can't d0 that in a mini car or a EV.

LindsayRichards wrote:
Harley's and Gullwings are the most common motorcycles in out area. They are not considered huge. They are about all you see adults riding. Do you know of any American automobiles with an engine in the 600 cc range?

Nope but smart car diesels are all 799CC. They also have a gas 800 CC both non turboed and turboed. None of them are fast but they all hold there own in traffic. I don't know about the gassers but our diesels have no problem hitting 75 MPH at the end of any on ramp even uphill. At that speed mileage starts to drop off but keeping it at 60 or under will get you around 70 MPG US. The diesels are rare in the US but common in Canada and real common over seas. Obviously not for the masses but great for a two person commuter highway or city.

did I just step into the twilight zone? I hear the music.
bumpy

Now it is obvious to me why your posts are usually so strange.

LindsayRichards wrote:
... filled with hippies who make their living illegally growing weed. ...The whole town seems to be filled with real nuts.

You mean like the hippies and illegal tea growers who founded this country in the 1770s? They were real nuts, who grew their own grapes for wine and barley for beer and ale. Some even distilled spirits. Most refused to pay tea taxes or buy from the tea peddlers that the British Crown had chosen to be favored as the British East India tea company. Those were the "Yeoman citizens" that the Founders wrote about.

Seems to me that those hippies had more in common with the founders than all these corporate boss-whipped types who tell us to submit to The Corporate Machine. After all, "corporations" were created by the Crown to enforce their policies in the commercial area (for a rake-off, of course).

just saw on TV that the Spark gets an 80% charge in 20 minutes and has a 40 mile range. still not feasible for any long distance if you take an hour to go 40 miles at 60 mph.
bumpy

Fezziwig wrote:
When we drive long distances on the Federal Interstate highway system we are taking advantage of an opportunity provided by taxpayers in generations past. why not extend the same to EVs?

Not an even close comparison. A national highway system is one of those things a government should undertake. Picking technologies isn't.

Selling solar power wholesale to a utility that already has plenty of other sources is probably fruitless. Especially now with the reduced demand for electricity. I wonder how much of that reduced demand is from the subsidized CFL lamps?

A good example of government interference. They indirectly mandate CFLs and then decide they are a threat.

I look forward to the day when we are awash in our own oil...

We are.

OTOH avoiding the retail cost of purchasing the electricity has merit. OK I know solar installations are also subsidized. I might be wrong but I think most solar is being installed on homes and businesses to avoid the retail cost and less solar creating central electric power to sell to the utility for distribution.

Not sure I understand this statement, but I will say that Colorado utilities are now, by law, required to produce a percentage of their power from "renewable resources," no matter the cost, which is proving to be substantial. Government interference, here we go again.

Should we also eliminate the home mortgage subsidy? Not to go off topic but just to present one of many examples that has outlived the purpose IMO.

What we should do, IMO, is eliminate the current tax code completely and replace it with a simple system, perhaps the flat tax, although it has problems. I would like to see everyone pay something into the system, even those who at this point only take from it. Everyone, even the poor, should have skin in the game. Might avoid another disaster as happened earlier this month.