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Hi Lindsay,

Are you referring to "the Air Car" when you mention a compressed air hybrid?

With fracking and horizontal drilling, the natural gas supply is over a century. Plus there is a lot undiscovered in North America and the rest of the world. The problem with solar has always been storage with is more expensive than making it. That is what is so neat about the compressed air hybrid. Storage is about 10% as much cost of batteries per unit of energy.

Natural gas may not always be cheep. And the solar is just for the mid day peak not to supply 24/7 base load.

Today, the EPA refused to permit the $3 BILLION Texas coal plant which was to be the most modern and clean coal plant in the world. 4,500 jobs. They plan on closing 205 additional plants in the next 4 years. Coal is going gangbusters world wide for power production, but has just fallen behind natural gas in the US (due to the miracle of fracking). The US CO2 emissions are the lowest of the last 21 year. (not that it matters as the world's are up.) The only factor driving solar is governmental mandates. When these fail as people get tired of paying triple for their energy, they will also fail. No energy source capable of at least breaking even with their competition will survive.

tomman58

Carbon to atmosphere is increasing. More coal is being consumed not less. Instead of being burned here it's being saved for the 3rd world. China is putting on line two new coal fired power plants per week devoid of environmental controls. They have a design life of 50 years.

You miss the point. It's about having sufficient low cost energy for global development not the environment. In the process energy costs increase in the US so less is used. Fracking is a wildcard and did throw a curveball in the plans.

I'll give you the feared part. Have oil and whisper that your abandoning the US Dollar as payment and you have trouble hitting you like a ton of bricks potentially including the Marines pay you a visit.

DelCamper wrote:
First, we're broke. Second everything is being done to get the third world to become developed energy consumers of high carbon fuel. The developed world cuts back one unit of carbon fuel only to be replaced by two units in the developing world which including China is exempt from global carbon reduction treaty.

All that is being done is to increase the cost of carbon fuel in the developed world to limit it's use and therefore make more available for global development.

All of this has zero to do with the environment.

Del I think we will lead on this issue, hide and watch.
As for being broke... We are still the most admired, respected, feared, loved and financially poised of anyone else on the planet.

Solar is not a dead industry as some would think IE:

TechNavio's analysts forecast the Global Concentrated Solar Power market to grow at a CAGR of 12.01 percent over the period 2012-2016. One of the key factors contributing to this market growth is the increase in legislations in the Renewable Energy sector. The Global Concentrated Solar Power market has also been witnessing the increase in large-scale CSP production. However, the reduction in FiTs could pose a challenge to the growth of this market.

!2%growth in any industry is very good in the long run. The current list of proposed solar sites is quite impressive even with the china problems.

pianotuna wrote:
Hi,

That would be a good thing.

tomman58 wrote:
no nuke power

Our navy would be able to go anywhere without nuke power!

Hi,

That would be a good thing.

tomman58 wrote:
no nuke power

China is not installing many solar panels in China and world wide sales are in the dumper. They have shut down much of the manufacturing just like us. The return on investment just isn't there. The Solandra panels were also tubular in design and not nearly as efficient as the new China design which are state of the art, but still not competitive. Solandra never stood a chance. They also have control of the chemicals for use in them. We need research break through to get back into that business.