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Yep, Volt works for you and evidently for 12,000 other people in the last 2 years, but there are 8 million cars a year sold. Glad to hear you are getting 2500 mpg. That really breaks the old record claim of 1000 mpg. You should send that in.

smkettner wrote:

LindsayRichards wrote:

AC takes the same amount of energy to run, whether it's battery powered or gasoline powered.

If it cuts your range from 35 to 30 miles it can make a huge difference. If it cuts my range from 400 to 375 doesn't matter as my bladder range is only 250 miles.

If you are going 250 miles in a Volt you will be into the gasoline anyway. Not sure it matters much if you lose 2 to 5 miles of electric range when going 250 miles.

That is ture if you went 250miles in ONE DAY and ONE TRIP but generally we go 40 miles or less each day. so in 6 days or so we go 250 miles and use hardly any gas! So if I said I went 250 and used 1/10 of a gallon of gas you could say I'm getting 2500 mpg of gas. Yes there were 5 times I recharged so 6 dollars of electricity were used.
Bottom line:::::::: 1/10th of gallon of oil produced fuel!

The Department of Energy has reported solar energy is all the way up to 0.14% of the total generated in the USA. We are on our way to .2% YEAH

http://blog.heritage.org/2012/09/14/energy-department-touts-solar-power-that-generates-0-14-of-electricity/

http://energy.gov/articles/solar-generation-has-bright-future

You would lose 5 miles or so off the electrical range which is the reason you are spending the money anyway, it becomes a big deal. It also depends on the outside temp too. Range is less when cold. When you run the heater it reduces range. Anything electrical being run reduces the electrical range. The whole reason for having an electric vehicle is to use it. Running it on the 84 HP motorcycle engine makes it no difference than it's $17,000 counterpart except for all of the extra weight of the battery and electric engine you would be lugging around.

Hi smk,

How does the air conditioning impact the range on a Leaf?

LindsayRichards wrote:

AC takes the same amount of energy to run, whether it's battery powered or gasoline powered.

If it cuts your range from 35 to 30 miles it can make a huge difference. If it cuts my range from 400 to 375 doesn't matter as my bladder range is only 250 miles.

If you are going 250 miles in a Volt you will be into the gasoline anyway. Not sure it matters much if you lose 2 to 5 miles of electric range when going 250 miles.

In a few years we'll all be getting 56 miles to a gallon or close to it.

Making a government mandate does not make something happen. Engineers and the private sector make things happen when driven by the profit motive. How safe will be 56 mpg vehicle be? LPG is the fuel of the near future. The fuel of the far future hasn't been invented yet in all probability.

"I was speaking of the electrical range you keep alluding to. That is what gets you the 500 mpg. The motorcycle engine in it should not be counted. Real EVs like the Nissan Leaf have no other mode of energy production. They don't have to buy the products of those dirty oil company and use up our precious, soon to be depleted natural resources.
Now answer the question, Why is nobody buying them?"

"Why is nobody buying them?" There are a lot of people who just don't understand how they work. They also can't figure it out even when an owner tells them! There are those that haven't done the math yet. There are folks (in Texas for instance) that drive in hours not miles. Hours? Yeah he said we don't even think in miles said the Texan.

In a few years we'll all be getting 56 miles to a gallon or close to it. The rest of the world then can have almost all of our oil!

LindsayRichards wrote:
When you buy a gallon of gas, the taxes are about 3 times more than what the oil company gets.

Not if they are an OIL company. You can't use the price of oil as its cost. It doesn't cost them but a fraction of the price of oil to "produce" it. But it certainly hides the true cost of producing gas when you calculate it that way.

Its also interesting that the company that buys its oil from others to produce gas has the lowest pump prices around here. :E

Noticed that gasoline prices are "stabilizing" at $3.99 even with the oil prices bouncing just below $100 a barrel. They must have raised the gasoline prices just high enough to handle the gyration of oil prices.