RV Fuel Issues & Prices - Post 'Em Here!

Filled up today in Central, Florida for $3.27.

You must be thinking of CNG conversions. Units from the manufacturer designed to be CNG have similar range, horsepower, and torque. Truckers can not tell the difference. You can easily read the info I posted or look it up on the net. Engine conversions are not the answer, but CNC built vehicles are going to be the solution of the future. Over 250,000 vehicles on the road now. Fueling stations are going in all over. You can also get your own home compressor starting at $1,700. The over the road truckers are reporting a $40,000/year in fuel savings. If you wish to educate yourself on them, go to CNG.com.

Fl today gas $3.48 Diesel $4.11.
Cng is okay for cross country trucking but for the rest of us, no thanks, the range in cars is not all that much. the HP and torque is not in the same ballpark. To think you would do an engine change in a MH is unrealistic.

All of us can have an opinion an educated one is sometimes not in the picture.

FYI, more than half of U.S. propane comes from natural gas processing.

I have recently seen that 70% of it came from crude oil refining. My point was that the poster was using it interchangeably with natural gas and indicated that natural gas was mainly for heating. I just saw today that natural gas has replaced coal as the number one fuel used for production of electricity. I can't wait to see it used for vehicles in a big way. Already happening in commercial trucking. There are three main reasons I want to see this. I am cheap, cheap, and cheap. I'd love to fill up my coach for less than $100.

LindsayRichards wrote:
Propane is made from the refining of crude oil and is totally d different from NG. Not interchangeable.

FYI, more than half of U.S. propane comes from natural gas processing.

Michigan fuel down 9 cents (as predicted as the holidays are over).

I have not figured out whether it was the mention of Wind mills or the reference of Texas buying theirs from China for another mod censor. Thinking maybe Texas as the truth there is not evident always.

Propane is made from the refining of crude oil and is totally d different from NG. Not interchangeable. Natural gas now supplies over 40% of America's electricity. Within a year, will be along the interstates (see article. See article I linked to above for the performance in formation also. There are about 10,000 semi trucks using NG 17 liter engines now and they are building them as fast as they can. Drivers can not even tell the difference. The diesel fuel equivalent is $1.60. Hard to believe it is not going to be a game changer. The engine makers already has one sized for RV's and cars. The private market will take care of the infrastructure like with Pilot/FJ. No taxpayer money needed.

First CNG will never sell like hotcakes as it under performs the gas and electric. Secondly it isn't going to be readily available except in cities where they use it for municipal trucks and such or on interstates for truckers.
A lot of northern Michigan We'll be happy to get off of propane as it is so expensive. That is where the NG will be used mostly. NE would love to have it replace oil heat!
Gas went up again today in Central Fl. don't see an end yet! Diesel about the same.

The natural gas for transportation fuel will continue to grow. I could see RV's using it as Flying J has it in 550 stations. It basically has an inexhaustible supply. As more and more auto manufacturers build new vehicles with it, they will sell like hotcakes. The engines are now available. That $1.60 /gallon is hard to beat. All depends on the infrastructure. Natural gas is on a huge upswing and Billions of dollars of private money are being invested.

CNG at truck stops could be a good thing for the semi cross country bunch but will not have any impact on personal use. If they can make it so a truck fleet can rely on it then thy will use it and that will provide some relief to the rest of us diesel users.

I was talking with an over the road trucker this weekend and he mentioned that Pilot/Fly J was building natural gas refueling centers at all of it's travel plazas. He goes from Central Fl, to Ky, to Az and back every week. I did a little research on it and looks like they are. There are a 15 and 17 liter engine being sold that give performance similar to diesels. The research I did shows the diesel equivalent price to be about $1.60/ gallon or so. That is a huge advantage in fuel savings. Looks like conversion would not be the route and the cost differential on new engines would be the answer on scheduled basis as the diesels wear out (4 year average). They also state that they are also going after the RV market. The natural gas fueling centers will supply CNG and LNG. Looks like the CNG will be the winner between these two. See link about Pilot/Flying J.

clicky