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- tomman58Explorert got a lot of Obama bumper stickers off the road.
In case you have not noticed "we didn't need them" LOL
I really don't have a problem as to if a person is "native" or not I simply noticed plenty of old cars in poor condition.
Personally I think it is better in AZ but we come as we have friends here for a month or 2. Couldn't imagine being stuck here year in and out, no thanks - LindsayRichardsExplorerFirst of all, there are very few over 55 years old Florida Natives living in Florida and most of the people are transplants. You have no way of determining if they are or not and therefore can not determine what style of cars they drive. You have been proving that snowbirds frequently complain a lot Thank you. I can even remember my Dad talking about how the "Tin Can Tourist" always complained about Florida, but continued to come.
surely you don't think that cash for clunkers worked.
It got a lot of Obama bumper stickers off the road. - tomman58Explorer"ery few natives like me around. If you talk to the non natives, you can immediately tell the difference, because they constantly complain about how bad it is "down here", but continue to come and stay."
1st most people "down here" do not complain about much because for a few short months we are here to escape the snow and cold because we can. we also go elsewhere from Az to gulf shores.
2nd where we are there are plenty of locals driving pretty poor cars, given an option I would think they would be happy to trade but this time only for American cars.
Fuel was $3.74 in Spring Hill today $4.11 in Umatilla. - BumpyroadExplorer
tomman58 wrote:
Maybe a cash for clunkers program again would help, !
surely you don't think that cash for clunkers worked.
bumpy - FezziwigExplorerYour arm-waving explanations depend too much on the "Invisible hand" theory which even Adam Smith disbelieved although he had invented it.
- LindsayRichardsExplorerWhen government steps in and tries to over regulate commodities, the result is always disruption of the free market and a reduction in supply. This is exactly what has happened in the natural gas business. If given free choice, North America could quickly ramp up crude oil and natural gas production and become independent of the world market supplies. If the public desires high millage vehicles, then a supply would be made to fill the demand. When we spend billions on noncompetitive technology that the public will not purchase, the money is wasted, $90 BILLION so far and an additional $12.3 BILLION this year on one more year of wind subsidies when the manufacturing industries for these continues to crumble. As far as the locals in Florida driving old technology vehicles, you may not be aware that most of the people you see in Florida are not from here, but from up North. Very few natives like me around. If you talk to the non natives, you can immediately tell the difference, because they constantly complain about how bad it is "down here", but continue to come and stay.
- tomman58Explorer"price here is only 30% of the world price. This costs us a lot of jobs. North America could import no oil by 2020."
These are great things! Natural resources that we can keep and use for the US!
We need to speed up the oil thing and demand faster acceptance of high mileage cars and trucks. As the middle east goes down the sewer we need independence from them.
Maybe a cash for clunkers program again would help, but lets make it mandatory for American cars only. Down here in Fl there are more old cars (driven by locals, snowbirds have the latest and greatest) that need replacing then i've seen elsewhere.
Fuel again is going up here. I did find a newly opened station for diesel at $3.89 thought I'd won the lottery! - FezziwigExplorerWe, the USA, use the global price because it reduces our overall oil costs. If we abandoned global markets our gas prices would go thru the roof because we don't produce enough to dominate our own market. The USA created the modern system of global oil prices for our own benefit, and it has worked well.
- LindsayRichardsExplorerThe ND crude now unfortunately is only about 1% of the total world supply and less than 5% of the US's daily usage. Could be much more, but investors are holding back on investing until the future regulations on fracking and pipelines become clearer. All commodities follow the world price whether it be wheat, corn, gold, silver, sugar, and just about everything that is transportable. A great example now is that US natural gas is abundant here, but illegal to be shipped out of the US and the price here is only 30% of the world price. This costs us a lot of jobs. North America could import no oil by 2020.
- SRTExplorerGasoline prices continue their upward trend. Now up to $3.15 for a regular at most stations. That's an increase of over 20¢ a gallon over the past several weeks. Oil is at $95.25 this morning. You would think that all that Baaken oil would create some downward pressure on the prices. Too bad they have to follow a "global" price.
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